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**interesteD** » 2010-09-20 23:10

I asked about the "bill"....i was told that it referred to a private entity and that the Minister could talk about it but by being specific it could or would affect any legal action. as it relates to Hurst.....so Hurst resigned because of a difference of opinion with the Board of the Airport Authority which is a Statutory body, read the article, had nothing to do with Maginley. so your exageration is pelucid. Who in 6 years resigned because of Maginley?

**tenman** » 2010-09-17 08:16

@interesteD It was a program that anyone who wanted to could hear why would I try to make things up as you state?. You already proved my assertion about the airport by your mention of Hurst. I do not have the benefit of a transcript or a recording of the program. I know for a fact the minister mentioned they had received a bill, he then continued by saying when they double checked they found that the bill was higher than what the person/ company (may have been a marketing company) was actually paid / billed. He inferred that there was a middle man involved who received a piece of the pie. Not sure why you did not hear that part.

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**tenman** » 2010-09-17 07:33

Interested you made a strange claim that I am making things up. Did Hurst not resign ( see Airport Manager Quits Monday, 21 December 2009 05:55 Afeefah Beharry? )
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**interesteD** » 2010-09-17 07:02

I listened to the interview on sunday....i did not hear the Minister talk about any "consultants". is that another fairy tale. And who resigned? Ken Hurst.
While at Health who resigned during the Ministers time there? again another fabrication!!!! Tenman it is just clear that you are making these things up because you have a personal problem with the Minister and the UPP. its ok just say it. The other red persons admit it and it is understandable as success breeds contempt and that inspite of all that was said the UPP was re-elected with Maginley as well. that might change in the future but for now be real and lets try to have dialogue that uplifts all and not just pull people down.... Maginley and Dundas and Parker and Plummer and you and I and other persons trying to do the jobs.

**interesteD** » 2010-09-17 02:37

Cool Ruler please accept my apology........ now Stitch in Time has attributed an "attitude" to the Minister that is unfortunate. What the Minister said is the FACT! The "islands' that he is referring to are all the countries that cruise ships go to (not just Caricom) which include the French islands, Dutch islands, spanish islands etc...so how do you get a binding agreement with all of them. The Minister reported the facts not that he agreed with it. And while you speak negatively of this Minister no Caribbean Tourism Minister in any country before or current has been able to "fix" this issue......so why all of a sudden this Minister is being questioned? Speak the facts.

**Cool Ruler** » 2010-09-15 12:08

Intereste D you need to read again, the assertion that you are attributing to me was actually made by a loyal comrade Dig it. who made a feeble attempt to attack me, I will save my fire since u clearly made a mistake when you attacked me.

**tenman** » 2010-09-15 09:26

Cool Ruler, I love that bible quote, ,man you ready for the debate I love that. Seems the weekend rest did you well.

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**A Stitch in Time** » 2010-09-15 09:05

The problem we have is that the Caribbean people do not support each other. They go to meetings with the same FCCA and agree collectively, and once the meeting is complete, each country goes back to the FCCA and makes his own deal.
The FCCA are very much aware of this and play their part very well. Once we are divided, the FCCA stand a better chance of being more and more demanding.
The cruise industry need the caribbean islands as much as we need them, but the scales are tipped in the FCCA's favour because we are unable to unite; too much suspision among us local islanders.

**Tobi** » 2010-09-15 08:46

I too was shocked to hear that the Minister seems to have shut the door on getting other island governments on board. With that attitude we will continue to be shafted by the Cruise Lines. That is why we as voters need to understand the system, find out what we get out of the Cruises, and what they get. If this government cannot answer our questions, then we need to find one that will tell us our business. We want transparency.

**tenman** » 2010-09-15 08:23

interesteD let me start by shocking you, I am no expert. I try my best to listen to all sides. Did you listen to the Big Issues on Sunday? I f found the minister all over the place. He would make a statement and when asked to be specific he would then basically say he is not sure he just has questions. Let me give you an example: He said they received bills and then when they checked they then found out they were paying a consultant but then learn the consult made less. When asked if he suspects something illegal; he would basically say its just an observation. interesteD now I think of it, the ministers attitude that entire program reminds me of your post, full of speculation. Really makes me wonder
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**tenman** » 2010-09-15 08:07

Tobi, reading what Dundas said about the email above I am not comfortable with the idea that Dundas has become so critical to the process I do agree with you that these cruise lines seem to be taking us for a ride. However the minister himself admitted we have no recourse since according to him its everyone for themselves. I have heard hoteliers complain about what the cruse lines get away with I just have to notice that whenever the minister is put over a ministry persons start resigning (Airport. The minister claims when he got there things were a mess. What does this say about his predecessor? Weren't we hearing great numbers when it came to visitor arrivals under Lovell?
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**interesteD** » 2010-09-15 07:57

Cool ruler seems not to know the truth....Maginl eys father in law is LION Hadeed who passed away many years ago......so if his information starts out to be incorrect how can we believe anything else he says???? And "Standup" feels its ok just to bash persons like Sen. Parker who is doing her job as Manager of Heritage Quay....she hasn's purported to change anything with the Cruise Industry...nor has Mr. Plummer who is the representative of the Board of Heritage Quays Merchant Association>>> come on its one thing to take clumsy pot shots at Politicians but swipes at other persons in defense of another private sector person.....what is that???

**interesteD** » 2010-09-15 07:32

Pompey's assertions are very interesting.... does he know that the Minister was accompanied by Sen. Parker, Manager of Heritage Quay and by Counsel General Ian Sweeney to discuss Heritage Quay matters? what is his point? That other issues came up? So if the Minster went with Dundas alone....an employee of Brysons....who represents 90% of the cruise lines who visit Antigua... would this raise his suspicions also or that is ok??? And the Heritage Quay Tenants have in there contracts that were drafted during ALP days the requirement to have a Merchants Association long before ABCTA existed...say what!!!!!!!

**interesteD** » 2010-09-15 07:25

Tenman"s comment about "the obvious' is just the point. The Minister said that the two Associations ARE different and that the ABCTA 'CANNOT' negotiate for the FCCA. it implies that DUNDAS has been doing that but it is not clear under what position...as President of ABCTA or as an employee of Brysins who represent over 90% of the cruise lines. Aslo do you Tenman know if Dundas is writing to the Cruise Lines advising them of the Incentives given??? Check it out expert.

**Cool Ruler** » 2010-09-15 07:04

There is a quote in the bible “Whence comet thou Ghazis” Dig it this aptly applies to you. What is your point? your certainly acting like a vulture just like the rest of your comrades.

**level thinking** » 2010-09-15 06:45

i am just reading these messages and am amazed......... ..everytime a governemnt minster stands up to do something all the "experts" chime in.....the Minister was invited to a meeting with the Heritage Quay Merchants Association who were presenting themselves to the FCCA for the first time. Now you "experts"would have said if he did NOT go then he would be guilty of not supporting the small businessman. The Minister accepted an invitation to discuss this issue live and Dundas chickened out. The Minister was at pains to commend Dundas and the Cruise Association for the work they do and even recommended that they go to St. Lucia and help set up there Cruise Association. you NEVER mention the good eh???? You have not printed the email from the FCCA..if you did you would see that it recognises the work of the "private and PUBLIC' sector...Minist er Maginley is standing up for those who feel it is time for the proper processes be put in place. Some of you just like the free for all so critizing him for doing the right thing is disingenuos.... .and no i do not support the upp but am have knowledge of this issue.

**Stand Up** » 2010-09-15 06:00

Maginley is the worst Minister of Tourism, he has done nothing but alienate the the knowlegeable people in the industry with his arrogance every where he goes, There is too many square pegs in this industry. Who is colin plummer? some store owner who writes some crap in a newspaper and what does maleka Parker knows about cruise tourism, because you are given a senator position? Come on Mr. Prime Minister lets put the best talent Antigua has outfront at this critical time and by the way is Conrad Pole and sister who i hear run cruise tourism not from St. Kitts who together does not add up to 5% of capabilities of Mr. Dundas , another two square peg only in these positions because of party politics and not for competense. Mr Pm you promise to make wrong right and this is wrong to the people.

**Dig It** » 2010-09-15 06:00

You never failed to amaze me! You're the same one who said that some people on this blog only operates by waving their hands in the air to see which direction the wind is blowing. Yet, I find you're doing the exact samething with Tobi's comments! Like it or not, the Joker Maginley is a failure at everything he does! Remember, he's the son-in-law of a man who's family is the very close to your "dignified" PM! It's a shame that he's running one of the most critical ministries, at this time, when our survival depends on it. By the way, I am not a vulture, and I am not one of Max's supporters! Instead of asking Max to give account of his "stewardship at the free trade zone," why do you give account of your government's incompetence?

**Tobi** » 2010-09-15 05:53

I think that is exactly the Minister's point: Dundas has been over-stepping his jurisdiction. Dundas certainly gives the impression that he and the Cruise association, Pier Group, etc. have the ability to negotiate on behalf of the country what the Cruise companies get and what they have to pay: concessions, taxes, fees, etc. To my mind the government must make these decisions and direct those very negotiations. The government should from the first put a stop to the cruise ships getting commissions on the sales of local tours, stop the sale of Antigua tee shirts and other souvenirs on board ship. Are the ships' companies paying their fair share for disgorging huge numbers of non-spending people on our shores?

**tenman** » 2010-09-15 05:28

"Editor is an ALP Demoniac "- this is the first comment I have made to this story. As far as my posts responding to some posts by you on other articles, I will state again if you have a problem with the editor, simply phone him or her. As far as this article goes I am of the belief that MP Maginley is over his head. I listened to the interview on Big Issues this past Sunday and it was clear that John is not fitted for tourism. An interesting part of the interview was when he stated that the Florida cruise associated has stated that the Antigua Cruise Associate cannot negotiate for them. I had to wonder what was the ministers point in stating that since common sense alone would dictate that both organizations are distinct.

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**Editor is an ALP Demoniac** » 2010-09-15 05:00

@Tenman,
Am I reading your initial entry into the Comments as inferring Caribarena has a credibility problem. I must re-evaluate how I think about you. Unlike many others who comment as often as you do, you have shown that even though your reasoning may be questionable sometimes you have illustrated your are sincere in your comments.
You deserve to be forgiven when you wrote that if I have a beef with the Editor I should contact him about my gripes.

**Cool Ruler** » 2010-09-15 04:59

Tobi you said it well in regards to VC and the cruise lines, divide and conquer in their MO. The minister went to great length to dispel any notion of a personal rift between himself and Dundas or the cruise associations for that matter, yet the vultures that support Max are circulating looking for flesh true to form. They ignore the fact that despite repeatedly being told that his interpretation of the cabinet decision is not correct he chooses to ignore the advice and instead allied his own interpretation. Max supporters are lining up behind a man that is yet to give account for his stewardship at the free trade zone, a place where all sort of ALP aligned groups and individuals use to feed regularly from the free trade zone coffers.

**Tobi** » 2010-09-15 03:33

While Papa Bird started off well for what he did for Antigua, he surely ended up being a cxxxk in the end, thxxxxxg more than he was giving to the country. Absolute power corrupts etc. By the sound of some bloggers on this issue, it seems the Max fans are salivating at Maginley's indiscretion. The vultures are circling. Meanwhile the Cruise Lines are rejoicing at our in-fighting, a ploy used most effectively by Papa Bird himself. "Divide and conquer" and laughing all the way to the bank.

**KillBill** » 2010-09-15 02:27

Do the honourable think John Maginley - RESIGN!!! GIVE UP!!! GO HOME!!! TAKE OFF!!! LEAVE!!! AAAW, I'M TIRED BEGGING, PLEASE LISTEN TO OUR CRIES, MAGINLEY!

**Smile** » 2010-09-15 02:26

Give it up people - Maginley will continue to rip and burn our nation. No one who has authority seem to care. Let it rest and hope for better.

**Milkman** » 2010-09-15 02:23

Your are correct but i would ask you to look at the leaders the Caribbean had before (Papa Bird, P.J Patterson, Burnham etc.) and look at the lame ducks we have today (i would not call their names) - do you think your suggestion still has capacity (at this moment in time)?

Maginle y is just one of the broken links but he is by far the worst!

I too would just resort to hope and prayer for Antigua and Barbuda and if our PM can't see and understand that Maginley is no good for him or our twin-island, then ...

**Tobi** » 2010-09-15 02:13

It's unfortunate that Maginley's arrogance has publicly clashed with Dundas' vaulting political ambitions. However, more importantly, the bottom line for Antigua's benefit is, Caribbean governments must stand up and unite in negotiating with the mighty Cruise Lines. For their very outset, the tail has been wagging the dog. The Cruise industry needs the Caribbean. Unless the islands unite in their negotiations with them, they will continue to play one island off on the other. It is my view that they do not contribute enough to the islands when one considers their huge profits.

**lethal.** » 2010-09-15 01:59

captain BALDWIN, your ship has sunk, your next stop should be on a jail bunk.;D ;)

**lethal.** » 2010-09-15 01:57

hurting on tourist industry, what a shame that fingers must be pointed towards one innocent man. not guilty MR. DUNDAS, hold your head up and forward on. smart move, i would not be the one to be associated with those loosers. blame it on the selfish gov't of antigua. tourism was already broken, with all the incidents that happen to tourist, including the famous brooklyn gang. not even gilligan and his crew would not want to be shipwrecked on that island. let the sharks eat us rather than the cannibals that live there. excuses, excuses, that's all they know these days. LONDON BRIDGE ALL BRUK DOWN, so take the key and lock them up.

**Cruzing** » 2010-09-15 01:31

You said it Miles! I see Fort Road really wants his/her voice heard since you brought over your comment from the Dundas Resigns article. However, your comment too is correct. I share the views and any fair-minded person will know that the incompetence lies with John Maginley.

We can only, as a people, hope and pray that Antigua & Barbuda gets better.

**James** » 2010-09-15 01:23

@ Rubbing Alcohol: I agree fully! I guess we all know by now who Julian Rogers work for and to whom his support goes. That being said i believe Dundas. I think the Maginley's actions and attitudies and unprofessionali sm over the years SHOULD allow us to reach a fair conclusion.

**Eustace** » 2010-09-15 01:19

@ The Hon. Dr. Baldwin Spencer - I am begging you PM to rethink decisions that has to do with John Maginley managing anything on your/our nation's behalf. Even if Dundas is not good enough (as some people claim) - John is by and large worst off. Please, for the love of ANtigua and Barbuda, Mr. PM, ask John Maginley, kindly, to remove or have him removed.

**Skye Williams** » 2010-09-15 01:17

If the Email is true and authentic then that's all you need. Is the cruise industry good for Antigua? and from what the email say, Did John do a good job? Maybe the Minister have a plan. Now we have to ask ourselves, How many successful missions have the good minister flown? Who knows this one could be just as successfull as his past assignments.

**Miles** » 2010-09-15 01:14

@ Rawlston: You seem to be on a cruise of your own. What fairness are you talking about? Get real, this is what Antigua & Barbuda has become, unfortunately, and it's all because everything your minister is asked to manage falls apart - He is incompetent!!

Thank you for your good work Mr. Dundas and i hope (only for the sake of our Tourism industry) that fresh elections are called, or bi-elections, resulting in the complete removal of John Maginley.

**Miles** » 2010-09-15 01:10

Everything crumbles under John Maginley!!! You don't believe it? Check his history.
I was confused for a minute or two during Mr. Rogers interview with Dundas but then i remembered with whom he associates (UPP which equals Mr. Derrick).

He was outright unfair in his questionings with Mr. Dundas vs that with Mr. Maginley. Everyone knows he has the ability to be a professional journalist but sometimes he uses that public knowledge to run-over whom he wishes to.

I am an Antiguan and i truly appreciate Mr. Dundas' contribution to our Tourism Industry. He had his downtimes but he, by far, did better that Maginley would ever be able to accomplish.

**Fort Road** » 2010-09-15 01:05

was shocked at the responses on Observer this morning... the negative remarks thrown at Mr. Dundas. I believe that they are Guyanese who come here and live a life of total disgrace but i also believe that as a man of Guyanese background, Mr. Dundas did work on our behalf. As such, i was ashamed, i feel for him and i think that we need to be thankful for a lot of things we have here and a lot of people who sincerely work on our behalf (regardless of their nationality).

I also think that Mr. Maginley remains a distructive force to the UPP and he will continue to tear down whatever was built up, whereever he is placed to work. He will not do better because he does not have the capacity to do better, unfortunately so.

Don't hang your head in shame Dundas, be strong and continue to work hard (even if some of my fellow Antiguan's throw you out).

**huh ?** » 2010-09-15 00:06

hmmm what part is not accurate ? can you please stick to the issues and the facts and identify for us all which part is not accurate ? that is the problem with you UPP singers who only always see one colour - Blue > tell us please which part is not accurate . Huh ?

**SANDRA** » 2010-09-15 00:00

I think that this the time that the Minster of Tiourism shoud resign for the good of Antigua & Barbuda, as we can see clearly that he is bad news for our twin Island.

Do the right thing and resign NOW!!!!!!

**rubbing alcohol** » 2010-09-14 23:57

lol i cant help but notice one gentleman in a red tie while the other in a blue tie. i listen to the interview yesterday with Dundas, Julian Rogers was trying hard to get him to say Maginley issue with him was personal.

**what's left?** » 2010-09-14 23:45

what will be left for tourism if cruise lines start to pull out of ANU? Hotel's are having a hard enough time trying to fill rooms, and now government want to hit up the cruise lines for more $$ to port in ANU. Tourism feed this country and is like ya'll want to chop off ppl hand, and shoot them in the foot!! No agricultrue system in place to feed the ppl of this country, so how ya'll expect ppl to eat?? We all understand we need to tighten our belts but if ya'll incharge of the country then lead by example!! start to cut down on excess spending on things like electric bills for buildings, especially the football fields that have those huge lights that are left on each and every night!! The damn carpark building that light up each night, is $$ have to pay for it, TAX MONEY!!! is like ya'll beggin to get vote out next election, u think i want to go back to ALP!?!?!

**RAWLSTON POMPEY** » 2010-09-14 23:28

In fairness to the Minister, in his media revelations as to what may have transpired, he admitted being an "...INVITED PARTY TO THE MERCHANT ASSOCIATION'S DELEGATION." In other words, he was suggesting that it was not a "...GOVERNMENT MISSION" where all STAKEHOLDERS may have been on board.That move would necessarily provoke SUSPICIONS AND MISTRUST in all the "...STAKEHOLDER S" including well-thinking and responsible citizens.

Apart from the CITIZENS, who are the known STAKEHOLDERS? Firstly, there was the "...CRUISE TOURISM ASSOCIATION (CTA), an affiliate group with the National Tourist Board; then overnight there came the ANTIGUA PIER GROUP (APG); Apparently further overnight came the"...MERCHANT ASSOCIATION (MA). The fundamental question is, whose interest the Minister represented on that seemingly contentious MISSION? In such "...HIGH-PROFIL E CAPACITY," it would have been difficult for any Minister to remove his/her OFFICIAL POSITION from the "...PRIVATE MISSION." THERE MAY BE OTHER BONES OF CONTENTION.

**hmmmm** » 2010-09-14 23:12

I heard the entire discussion/inte rview between Nathan Dundas and Julian Rogers on Observer radio and this report does not accurately relate both sides of that discussion. Give us a true report Caribarena, I always look forward to unbiased reporting but am beginning to question your credability on certain matters.

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