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**Dennis Brown** » 2012-06-21 13:34

What Christian Council? That name needs to be changed because it is bringing reproach to the cause of Christ.

**Bishop Receipt** » 2012-06-20 08:33

I am really disappointed with these three guys! I always thought they would put their country first!

I call on the Christian Council to write the the GG and ask for her to instigate an inquiry! If they fail to do this, they should all be left alone on their pulpits each Sunday!

How can Soul even be able to face the Parishioners when he goes to church? He should write a letter calling for the inquiry to clear his family's name!

Then again he can only do that if his hands are "clean"!

**Eric** » 2012-06-16 14:31

Jumbee Picknee –
• Is not true that all the existing problems created by the Stanford catastrophe are a direct result of bad decisions by the last ALP administration. ?
• Is it not true that it was the last ALP administration who sold to Stanford all the Airport Lands for less than EC$1.25 per sq. ft.?
• Is is not true that all the lands at the Airport were virtually given away to Stanford without any consideration given to future development of our Airport?
• Is it not true that the UPP administration have to pay in excess of $80.00 per sq. ft. for the same lands to build the new Airport terminal?
• Is it not true that your ten (10) year son has more common sense than to sell to Stanford or any other person those Airport lands that will be necessary for development now and again 50 and 100 years later?
• Was any” finder’s fee” or other commission paid to anyone???????

**SlyThatGuy** » 2012-06-16 11:03

We have to get better at making decisions. What I mean when I say that is we've got to stop signing these ridiculous contracts with the Chinese which always give all the advantages to them. Why would the government use the Chinese, foreign engineers ,in place of our own local engineers to operate and maintain the Wadadli Power Plant? Is it because Antigua & Barbuda has a lot of money to throw around? Because I can't see how creating jobs for outsiders and giving the money away to them is helping in achieving our goal of reviving our failing economy.There has got to be a better way of doing business if we hope to succeed.

**Truth Be Told** » 2012-06-15 16:29

I long for the day when people like Clarvis and Mansoor no longer hold public office or have anything to do with the affairs of our country. This "high & mighty'' attitude ain't cutting it. you have a responsibility to the PEOPLE of the country, not to your "political lovers"

**Concern Antiguan** » 2012-06-15 16:07

Clarvis Joseph has the foresight to cut poor people current. Very elementary. However, he does not have the capacity to comprehend complex issues such as the agreement for the power plant. He walk around Antigua puffing up his chest parading as an intellectual. Nothing could be further from the truth. Give him assignments that are not straight forward and you begin to see how incompetent he is. Clarvis and shoul have made a mockery of our country. The so call engineers who examined the engines should be made to answer for their **sment/recomme ndation. Their jobs should be called into questions. After all Antiguans relied on their knowledge and expertise to guide us in the right direction. Shame on all of them.

**John French II** » 2012-06-15 13:12

Notes Fron A Native Son Of The Rock. This article has attracted 1860 Hits, 33 comments(17 Multiples) & 23 Downloads of the MOST Important Document. Go Figure!
This "mere voice in the wilderness" has provided critical questions, analyses and some recommendations to my fellow Native Commenters, APUA Engineers, Technicians, Executives & Managers. As a PE, who has not inspected the Equipment & Plant, Legal & Ethics prohibit me from commenting on the authenticity & veracity as to their age. The documentation provided by this News Portal, APUA & Blue GoAB lead to other conclusions which have been commented upon. Remember my comment on the PRoC: They Shoot Horses! In the Fullness of Time!
Tenman & Dig It, evidence provided should not distract you from pursuit of Truth & Justice. Do not chase after a Fool's Long Lost Errand. In doing so, you fall into a similar trap as "the wannabe heir apparent and leadership hopefull", who by his ignorant pronouncements and following "Class Think" of some Doctoral Professionals with no Expertise in such matters when evidence has been exposed to his very eyes & in print and "living colour". Friends: 3 Words RWE. Respect!

**Made in China** » 2012-06-15 10:43

Can Baldwin Spencer read? or does he "pick up corn"? Remember he cannot call a number that has more than 4 figures.

**Jumbee Picknee** » 2012-06-15 00:50

Is it a fact that this is APUA's &
UPP Ponzi Scheme?
Is it a fact that they don't care since the responsible parties magistrate/judge?
Is it a fact that the judiciary can bring criminal charges without a costly inquiry to the taxpayers?
Is it a fact that the majority of Nationals don't give a damn?
Is it a fact that some of the money will be used to pay US law firms in the next
round of the R. Allen Stanford saga?

**Onlooker** » 2012-06-14 21:06

Seriously you need a day job.

**benna** » 2012-06-14 20:37

Everytime I hear about Wadadli power plant i feel really sick. dem people too wicked! what are we going to do about it? we are able guilty of condoning thiefingness.

**tenman** » 2012-06-14 20:16

Rubbin alcohol you can also find it here:
www.acronymfinder.com/Government-of-Antigua-and-Barbuda-%28GOAB%29.html

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**tenman** » 2012-06-14 20:14

Rubbin alcohol its used to mean Government of Antigua and Barbuda

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**Rubbin alcohol** » 2012-06-14 20:03

What does GOAB stand for?

**Anu** » 2012-06-14 16:23

Theres a phrase that goes "If you throw a stone in a hog pen, "the one that bawl out a de one dat get um" (dialect).

**It Is Me** » 2012-06-14 16:02

Ya'll still asking questions about this Chinese Wadadli power plant? Question period is over long time. Only a fool still have questions. Everyone knows now that we got a lemon. Every where you turn something is wrong with this deal.

It is now time for action. The people must move now!!!

**tenman** » 2012-06-14 16:00

Dig It what Godfather does not get is unless he has direct access to information (real evidence) that the police, the AG, the DPP and other law enforcements officials don't, he is simply chatting crap. If he does have such he needs to bring it to the police or call a media houses he has confidence in. I get the impression that the Godfathers real name may have been mentioned in the same Bob Linquist report because he makes no demands for its content to be made public. In his mind, persons named by BS and the AG are guilty and should be hanged at noon with no real trial. I guess Godfather's evidence comes from the mock trail they had at judgement square? If so I take it he wants to take us back to the wild wild west. All information the general public has been given on IHI came from a UPP politician, mostly the AG or BS. The AG has made it clear via oath that he had no evidence of the defamatory things (so ruled the court) that BS and now the Godfather allege.

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**Dig It** » 2012-06-14 14:59

Godfather, I NEVER mentioned your name but you are "attacking" me for taking a stand! Guess what I said really hit a "nerve" with you! By the way, I never mentioned on this forum to you or anyone that I support the ALP or the UPP! I try my best to be "objective" in my posts, and, put country-first over any party! Yet, I am constantly called a "comrade" because of my speaking-out against the government and its crippling "policies" to poor people! Strange that when I criticized the Loyal Opposition the "die-hard" UPP supporters never questioned my "agenda!" I just find it a total "hogwash" that you would talk about "public interest" when your government have not been "honest" and totally "transparent" with the people! Yet, you speak with a "spin-tongue" because perhaps you are getting "private gain" for your "stewardship!"

**Anu** » 2012-06-14 14:50

I read the above article by Caribarena. If i was in doubt about the same info that Molwyn Joseph spoke about on his programme, Caribarena has given credence to the information. What is TRULY AMAZING to me is that some of us bloggers can be so critical to the current events that should be in the public interest to know. The article was not an opinion piece, it was information obtained from the house of parliment. Reading the comments by some of my fellow bloggers, i have come to the conclusion that some of us don't have country at heart but rather show open support for party politics. All government must be held accountable during their tenure in office. Democracy clearly demonstrated that, when the ALP lost power in 2004. The UPP is no exception. It is not fair for tax payers to pay high taxes and cant get accountability for questionable projects that our government has engaged in. UPP has put itself in the spotlight to be critecised because of the lack of transparency and accountability in their leadership skills. The facts must not be condemned with ignorance. If we love our country, it is time for us to speak truth to power and stop this party politics nonesense.

**Dig It** » 2012-06-14 14:38

Tenman, it is just a "blatant" disregard to "transparency" that WE were told would be used throughout the tenure of this government! Six years later, the Bob Linquist report is "hidden!" Yet, WE were told by the COP that a "grey ghost" went into an "unlocked" Court house, and told important document related to the IHI case! We have seen these "mysterious" reports of breakings before at GH, where someone broke in the safe and told thousands of dollars and documents. We were even told by the good doctor that someone jumped over the fence at GH, got "physical" with a guard and then left in "thin air." Tenman, how can any person "refused" to accept that the GOAB hasn't been "transperant" with its "freedom of information" to the people? When the PM was in the opposition he asked for a public inquiry into MBS, which he got. If we going to want others to follow us in our "crusade" let's release all reports to the public!

**THE GODFATHER** » 2012-06-14 14:27

Tenman, how many times are you going to quote the same passage, let me be clear, the AG does not think for me. I have my own viewpoint, and will never allow anyone to influence my thought.

Many people take the news at face value and accept everything reported as truth, though they are filled with lies to brainwash the gullible. My parents gave me the freedom to think, I am independent of anyones influence, so I can decide for myself, I know wrong from right, justice delayed to justice denied.

**tenman** » 2012-06-14 13:53

THE GODFATHER , if you had followed the defamation case, you would have learned that the person you enjoy attacking and you claim to have played with as a child, had filed no injunction. The AG admitted this during his testimony. Here is an article which may interest you:
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Simon said there is no legal restriction to prohibit IHI from making payment to Bellwood Services, and for Bellwood Services to transfer its own money to the ALP. He said he was not aware of any payments made by IHI to Bellwood Services. The witness (Justin Simon) was asked if he was aware of any convictions against Bird for perverting the course of justice by filing a number of injunctions to prevent persons from getting into his bank account. Simon said he was not aware of any such action. Read more: http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/news/politics/99172-bird-defamation-suit-wrapping-up.html#ixzz1xn78nILr

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**THE GODFATHER** » 2012-06-14 13:24

So Raapapport's monthly and the amount deposited in two former government MPs account in Bermuda is not sufficient evidence. If not, why should the guilty party be filing continuous injunction,?

I see no reason for the report to be delayed, the DPPs slowness is tantamount to justice failure, and contrary to public accountability. The evidence is obvious.

**THE GODFATHER** » 2012-06-14 13:13

You seem to be very selective, anyone found robbing the state should be put before a firing and that should be retroactive justice. But, what is blatantly clear you do not want such to befall your lovable party!

You are more "snake oil" and dangerous than anyone I know. Why not ask twist jaw how many insider deal he got from his business agents, and how many meetings benefited him.

Do you think buildings were built without under table rule, built for the government to own, is now their OWN!

Also, investment in the hospitality sector was not by accident, the students now pay the principal, the interest is theirs! So, too with POWER, the plant that you water with your ignorance is theirs, and that does not support our independence, support public interest and not private gain!

**tenman** » 2012-06-14 13:04

Dig It, whats even stranger to me is the current government had a forensic auditor, Bob Linquist, complete a report where IHI is concerned. This auditor was paid using tax payers moneys yet the public is not allowed to see a report which was completed at least by March 2006. The PM had the same Bob Linquist report available to him in the defamation case brought by LB, yet chose not to use it. The PM lost the case. The impartial DPP looked at the report and concluded it contained nothing he could use in court. All the resources of government have amounted in finding no evidence that could be used in court against ALP politicians, yet the poster wants us all to join him in his crusade. Before I could join such, I wish first to see the report done by Bob Linquist with the help of Howard Williams and Ron Piers, because all I see is this government yet again hiding another document. I wonder why?

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**Anna** » 2012-06-14 12:04

Who is going to give warranty for an old plant? This deal is pure corruption and the people of Antigua and Barbuda love it so.

**Dig It** » 2012-06-14 11:53

Well, I believe that GOAB has faced very little "public-pressur e," or "Opposition" to release all documents! It is a total "shame" and our Parliamentarian s have shown that this "issue" is either "closed" or can't even carried a "motion" in Parliament on it! At this point, the people of this young nation are in a "rock" and a "hard" place! However, we need to show those that "failed" to bring these "documents" to light that we have "enough" of their "excuses" and surely enough of their lack of "transparency!" We see what happened in Guyana. Would we see any managers at APUA or part of the government that would be "sentence" to life in prison on WPP?

**Dig It** » 2012-06-14 11:33

Why is it that whenever anyone (bloggers or commentarians) talked about the GOAB's "corrupt" practices they are "snake-oils" persons turning the issue around or just "refuse" to accept that the government hasn't lived up to its end of the bargain to be "transparent" or even "accountable!" Here, you have the writer making a case for the people, who have been left out of seeing any documents of the new WPP, to know where "de money gone," and, the PM, the Great Negotiator, and their cronies can't come "clean" with the people! Obviously, APUA is "paying" for everything, in this "agreement," and, BCEG, is just "collecting" every month! The fact that these loans\grants with the Chinese were NEVER "approved" in Parliament is just enough to raise a "red-flag" that something "fishy" has taken place, in the dark! If the GOAB really want to show that they have nothing to "hide" they should do the most "patriotic" thing and give the people all they want to see and not hear!

**THE GODFATHER** » 2012-06-14 11:05

The author proves to be ignorant, and lacks business understanding, refer to Tansportation of Materials and Equipment, try importing a few items from any country and then tell me who pays the shipping/transp ortation cost.

Also, why insert "But more importantly, Caribarena would like to know..." coincidentally serves your interest.

**D. Merchant** » 2012-06-14 10:41

This deal is crazy!!!! $ 358,830 .,to send 30 China men each year ,plus the addition cost to keep bring people from China to do repairs on the old plant?? Plus $ 2,000,000 usd for labor only!!!
Can King David tell us who is selling all these parts to APUA ? !!! How many Chinese Companies like CCGC,BCEG,,XEMA ect are involved and who are the local middle -men????????????????????????
Come on dAVID,service to country should be your MANTRA'''',Not xxxxet!!!!

**THE GODFATHER** » 2012-06-14 10:31

,...term of loan 30 years from STANFORD BANK

**THE GODFATHER** » 2012-06-14 10:06

The author should cite corruption in Antigua and Barbuda, for example, the US$31 milion Mount St.John Loan on 17th July 1998, term of loan 3 years at the annual rate of 9.8% signed by the former governmen. Or the 120.5 million Deutuche Mark loan for Deep Bay Hotel project to be repaid in 2028 (Tim Hector Economic Laws of Corruption April 6th 2001)

Probably, IHI loan in 1984 for US$33 million at 8%',not much was repaid, Bruce Rapapport collected monthly payments of US$203,594 and deposited some in former MPs account.

Another APUA FUNDING US$13.7 million, daily interest US$2,573.41, an it's alleged as much as $92 million was diverted (ANTIGUA OBSERVER April 23, 2010)

And the cycle goes on an on, the Public Market scam etc......

**Reality** » 2012-06-14 09:37

Negotiations had been ongoing over a number of years between APUA and APC to improve and increase the supply of electricity.

Meanwhile, while these negotiations were taking place, a xxx agreement was reached between Baldwin Spencer, Antigua & Barbuda's Prime Minister and the Chinese Government to provide Antigua (and APUA) with its own new power plant to diminish, if not remove entirely, its dependence on the Hadeed-controll ed APC.

Active in this agreement was Antigua's Ambassador to China, the Honourable David Shoul, head of the other "power family" in Antigua.

What has emerged, in spite of the obfuscation and great stonewalling by the Prime Minister and a tightly knit group within his Cabinet, is a story of lies, evasions, xxxd and maladministration.

Following the money has led to the discovery of corporate entities, formed in China, after the loan agreement had been reached, acting as unspecified participants in a deal already made. It also identified vast overruns of costs finding their way to these entities. However, the final straw was the discovery that the equipment installed was not new, as originally agreed.

**PLM** » 2012-06-14 09:24

Answer to the question, obviously not! Reading would place too much strain on their brains. Ambassador Shoul and the entire APUA senior management staff need to go.

**tenman** » 2012-06-14 08:40

The cost for each person traveling to China will run us the lowest $4,430.00 US(11,961.00 EC)per ticket. In addition APUA is providing these persons with free utilities which has a cost for APUA. Free Medical treatment at MSJ while the BCEG workers pay no taxes here (strangely Clavis Joseph has no power to authorize such yet he signs a document agreeing to this). Guessing (since the Org Chart the document refers to was never provided) that there are no more than 30 persons(BCEG workers) working at the plant, it would mean where the monthly service charge (83400 USD) is concerned we are paying at least 2780 USD (7506 EC) monthly per worker. I have no doubt that only that the average salary and perks for APUA technical and managerial staff is not over 8K monthly

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**R. Berry** » 2012-06-14 08:24

Whoever negotiated this deal on behalf of the Government and People of A&B, he name must have ended in wong, or ping, or, or, or.

**THE GODFATHER** » 2012-06-14 07:33

What is the authors true agenda? The writer s already critical of the Opreation agreement signed by the government without investigating the perquisite in such cases. The Operation agreement is essential to the project, anyone private or government involved with any foreign contractor are often given a project overview prior to starti.

The document usually outline the necessary requirements from accommodation to maintenance, generallynthis is no different from global business practice.

There is no doubt corruption exist in business, not only in China but right here in fair Antigua & Barbuda, why cite a Chinese example and the monied few are protected in Anitigua. This article clearly demonstrates the particular business quarter funding this assault. Nomone will ever think for me!

**young analyst** » 2012-06-14 07:19

something here just seems really fishy, i think i heard that there was at least a 1 year warranty on these plants, but in the agreement if anything needs to be replaced APUA will have to get it?? This is getting more and more fishy are these chinese really smart or our officals were ...Fishy!!!

**Morris** » 2012-06-14 06:01

This is some very troubling revelations. Hold on for dear life, because ANU has been taken on a roller coaster ride.

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