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Wednesday, 28 September 2011 02:30
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By Everton Barnes
Antigua St John's - Police Commissioner Vere Browne and talk show host Lionel "Max" Hurst traded words on Tuesday over the top cop's refusal to allow "Minister of Helps" Eugene Humphreys to stage a protest march on Thursday.
Browne called the popular morning programme, Your View, where Hurst often appears as co-host, to clarify his rationale for denying permission.
The exchange, lasting just over 17 minutes, was heated at times as Hurst pressed the commissioner to give an explanation for his decision.
Hurst contended that the Constitution guarantees every citizen the right to peaceful assembly, and denial was tantamount to an infringement of that right.
“If the police are going to deny permission for a march, then they have an obligation to give a reason why the march is being denied," Hurst, a lawyer, declared. He added that "Citing sections of the requisite law as reasons for the denial is just not a proper reason in my view."
But the commissioner responded by reading from the Constitution to indicate that while an individual has certain rights, those rights have conditions or limitations. “The protection as contained in these provisions being limitations to ensure that the enjoyment of these rights and freedoms by the individual does not prejudice the rights and freedom of others or the public interest,” he said.
Browne explained that his decision was influenced by his concerns about the protection of the public interest and public order.
But not to be outdone, Hurst recalled that all previous police commissioners had cited reasons for denying any march, and in most cases gave an alternative date and time when the march could be held. He also said that the duty of the police is to ensure that when marches are held, they protect not only the marchers, but the property of others. “Antigua & Barbuda has a long tradition of democracy that includes the right to peaceful demonstration and you will not deny us that right,” he contended.
Host of the programme, James “Sly Jay’’ Simon, had a tough time moderating, as both men refused to accept the opposing point of view.
Browne stood his ground, and said his position is supported by the law and the Constitution. “The police enforce the law of the land, not my opinion," he said. "Mr Humphreys has received a response, and whether Mr Hurst or anybody disagrees with that, it’s unfortunate, but that’s the law of the land. That’s what we took the oath to uphold, and not Mr Hurst’s view."
On Monday, Humphreys shared the contents of a letter he had received from Browne denying permission to stage the march aimed at pressing the government to mount a public inquiry into what has become known as the "fences scandal".
On Tuesday night, ALP Leader Lester Bird added his voice to the debate, and said the commissioner’s argument was "spurious" and it was wrong for Browne to pre-judge the march, as this was "outrageous".
“The commissioner is allowing external forces to influence what he does,” Bird declared.
44 Comments In This Article
Desperate Men Do Desperate Things
So, who is this puppet master?
Who was the Finance Minister when in upwards of 8 million were spent per mile of road around the Sir. Viv Richards stadium?
Who was the Finance Minister who authorized spending of millions in town to lay blue & yellow side walks & drains, only a few month later to have them dug up?
Who is the Ex-Finance Minister being sued by the Official Stanford Investors Committee for receiving over 1.1 Million U.S.D through his law firm?
This is the same ex-minister, now senator, who is the head of National Security in Antigua. Does anyone else see how this appointment is causing an problems today within the Police Force?
www.archive.org/details/BrowneVs.Pompey
For anyone who didn't hear the exchange between Browne & Hurst, the above link will be useful to you.
Stanford Alliance
3 decades of independence
galileo
@ tenman
Gaston has been labelled, and it appears as if he is on a quest to repair his public image. Some of his recent pronouncements have really turned me off. He seems not to think that there is any urgency to remove this albatross from around our necks. I can't begin to say how unimpressed I am with the ALP as an opposition party - almost as unimpressed as I am with the UPP as a governing administration
DadliMan
DadliMan
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tenman
Attention ALP
This sorry situation shows the ineptitude of the ALP as an opposition party. Had this sorry situation existed under the ALP administration, the UPP would have turned this country upside-down. Had the ALP been doing what they need to do, Eugene may not have even needed to apply for a permit to march. The ALP is too comfortable. They need to get up off their behinds and do some real work. We have long gone beyond the point of talking and writing meaningless letters.
DadliMan
The Truth
Skyewill
@people in a box
jeb
RE: Commissioner Trades Barbs with Hurst
TC
@ rupert j
Now this..... I was completely against the Canadian Mounties, but Gary Nelson resisted political interference into the police affairs, and left because he refused to be a puppet. At least he had some principles. This man is full of himself, and has absolutely no principles.
DadliMan
InterestedD
Antiguan Woman
politics
look now the same man can't get to do what he use to do when ALP was in office The police commish is a boy
true garat
Concerns on both sides...
wada
yes they are
rupert j
Commissioner-sa ve yourself the emb**ment!
Dig It
Naiomi
Make no bones about it, their favouritism toward some and outright spite for others has been on display for over 8 years now and it ain't pretty.
By and large Antiguans & Barbudans are peaceful people, but if Baldwin and company try to rig another election, we may see a big change.
Personally, I think they know this because otherwise they would let a simple protest march happen without interfering with police activities.
Such a meddlesome and manipulative bunch of miscreants indeed.
Buzzbomb
If A So A So
Media Movement
just a thought
Tobi
RE: Commissioner Trades Barbs with Hurst
naiomi
RE: Commissioner Trades Barbs with Hurst
Antiguan Abroad
what next
sylvester
RE: Commissioner Trades Barbs with Hurst
If this man is really a trained lawyer, as he claims at every opportunity he gets, then this is proof that idiots can be lawyers too. The man sounded as if he had no common sense. I guess Vere Browne's duty includes protecting Baldwin Spencer and the UPP administration from criticism.
Vere Browne should try to improve his deplorable record in fighting crime and leave politics alone.
DadliMan
RE: Commissioner Trades Barbs with Hurst
Wonderful
Steve
phil
The march should go on!
InteresteD
The Commissioner has just created another Political Football
Irregardless of how much The Commissioner of Police may deny political considerations or influence in his decision few will accept it as being genuine, he has now made it a third rail issue. This one act may have cost the Commissioner the level of respect and forbearance that the highest lawman needs in order for him to be perceived as not being partisan or being manipulated.
This really sad, and one would have hoped that I spite of all our other problems this institutions that are the pillars of our democratic society would not have made a simple permit become now a political football
CountryMan
@Cool Ruler
Steadyj
RE: Commissioner Trades Barbs with Hurst
Antiguan Abroad
buzzbomb
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tenman
THIS IS SERIOUS!
ANTIGUAN WOMAN
spot on buzz bomb
Microwave Chef
@ JB
Morris
all bite and bark no brain
in a black country the imported white guard dog , refused to bite or bark and was contend to watch his masters property but nothing more.So that dog had to go.
Chef feels kinda down that the brown xxx who was put in place has more bark and bite than brain. he does not know that he is biting the hand that feeds it with tax-money. Chef Feels this silly xox needs to go back to the dog-pound and while there place have a good vet nxuxxr it , o wait chef now notices that those part have already been removed by his dictator and master.
Today's special in chef kitchen mountain oysters doggy style.
Microwave Chef
EZ Street for Browne
edwin
Check list
Just a quick talley:
1. Control the media and deny the opposition party access...Check!
2. Manipulate the one and only election you presided over...Check!
3. Turn the Governor General's office into a political flunky....Check!
4. Take partisan control of the electoral commission....Check!
5. Deny a public enquiry into excessive spending on walls....Check!
6. Introduce new taxes and spend like crazy on nothing sustainable...Check!
7. Manipulate the police department regarding any decent....Check !
8. Treat the money men well (Waldorf) and keep them close to you....Check!
9. Give every MP duty free during the first weeks in office....Check!
10. Collect per diems with excessive travel and buy new cars with drivers, security teams and police escorts....Check!
11. Ignore the needs of the public unless they are contributors... Check!
Muammar Gaddafi would be proud of these accomplishments .
Buzzbomb
@ Political Interference!
Thinking
RE: Commissioner Trades Barbs with Hurst
Cool Ruler
Antigua/Barbuda be aware 2
JB
Antigua/Barbuda be aware 1
JB
RE: Commissioner Trades Barbs with Hurst
Morris
antigua gone
dave
Political
Phil
Fence Scandal creates political barriers
It seems evident that the fence scandal is one of those issues that our current government refuses to accept responsibility for. Overlooking the situation and trying to bury it may result in voters changing their view on the government they selected.
Perhaps it's time for our current government to "man up" and investigate whether or not the scandal is legitimate. Otherwise we may see followers of "the blue" change their favorite color to red.
If there has been wrong doing, then we need them to set an example of those responsbile for it. If not, how can we ever demand the same from our citizens?
W.T.F
RE: Commissioner Trades Barbs with Hurst
STEVE
Protection of the public interest and public order
Skyewill
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