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**bob** » 2013-04-03 09:37

If the people really want change no matter what they do change will come

**Watching** » 2013-03-11 23:43

Now - Asot is alleged to be the mover behind Lester's removal. Now Lester Join Asot in a suit. Things that make you go hmmmm. Anyway, the recent developments have proven that the ALP is controlled by this man. The labour party revolves around him....he is in control and is controlling all of them - except Vere Bird the III that is.

**tenman** » 2013-03-11 23:23

My way .. one of your arguments against our judges was the election case result. You argued your suspicion that the privy council would have given a different ruling than the EC court. Ignored by you is that there was a west Indian judge in the first instance that ruled the way you liked. One of the lawyers arguing the case, Astaphan admitted that a major bottleneck which prevented them from properly dealing with the case was the time limitations. These limitations were set in election law by parliament not a judge. Here is the same lawyer saying to the public what I have been saying to you: Respect our courts (www.cuopm.com/newsitem_new.asp?articlenumber=1723&post200803=true)

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**my way of helping** » 2013-03-11 23:17

Tenman, i could swear i wrote wager but thank you so much for correcting my typographical error, you are too kind.

Now moving away from the imaginery fig leaf ha ha ha, How about your statement about court and police, when we were debating a court of law. Will you ever say you are wrong when you are wrong to me or the world? ha ha ha

**harlem** » 2013-03-11 22:47

your headline is about the elimination of st.peters yet the article did not articulate anything about the elimination of st.peters.

**tenman** » 2013-03-11 22:35

my way of helping you, not me, wrote waiver. Reread your 2013-03-11 18:47 and stop trying to hide behind an imagined fig leaf. I simply corrected your error. Its so telling that you can recognized, only when it suits your argument, the variables which can affect a judgement

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**my way of helping** » 2013-03-11 22:10

Tenman, appeal courts deals specially with interpretation of laws, they sit, read and determine from THEIR understanding of the law and what it was intended for. Lower court procedures is a lot different from the appeals court procedures.

Our debate are on Appeals court, mostly their interpretation and not necessarily arguments is use to determine matters. Appeals court look at legal questions and not necessarily factual questions?

**my way of helping** » 2013-03-11 22:03

@ Tenman, the word is wager, my fellow blogger wanted to make a bet with me, that is called a wager. A waiver is giving up on a right, privelege etcetera. What is going on with you these days Tenman? Professor wanted me to wager (bet, gamble) my right to blog

Tenman, you forgot you said police is the court of appeals when we had a debate of me not wanting a court of appealing, you are saying that i also mean i do not want police, when in fact, i never mentioned anything about police in that debate.

**bjsm** » 2013-03-11 22:01

WAIT UPP NA UNDERSTAND DAT EVEN IF U CHANGE ALL THE CONSTITUENCIES OR JUS HA ONE CONSTITUENCY ARU CYANN WIN AGAYN DAT AH HOW MUCH PPL FED UP WID ARU..CHUPZ SO CHANGE ALL ARU WANT THINKING IT AH GO HELP ARU WIN....

FOOLISH SET AH PPL ....WE NA WANT ARU U NONE MOO

"GET GOIN" ARU :-x

TUMMUK...

**tenman** » 2013-03-11 21:54

My way of helping the following logical statement from you surprises me:
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However, it would be illogical to waiver (wager)while other are arguing the case and not us, against each other. Law is base on who present a better case, not necessarily what is right or wrong.

You did not remember this when you decided to attack our west Indian judges?

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**my way of helping** » 2013-03-11 18:47

I need you on here to speak, i agree with your reasoning sometimes and your voice is important. However, it would be illogical to waiver while other are arguing the case and not us, against each other. Law is base on who present a better case, not necessarily what is right or wrong.

If I was part of the team, against the change in boundaries, i would then feel comfortable with your wager. My team may not be effective, even thou, my team was and is right.

However, the manner in which the they are making the changes and how they are making the changed will be the issues, at this time, i would think this is a factual issue and not necessarily a legal issue. Further research and investigation may result in legal and factual issue.

**tenman** » 2013-03-11 18:21

Professor, they need to bring up the utterances of the chairman where he showed that they took the time to see who the changes may affect in an election. They will also be able to show that the suggestion that the census and instead the voters list is a better tool for defining boundaries is ridiculous. This must be done by including testimony from statisticians who can point out the flaws. Unlike the census it would not factor in important variables like age. Due to its age, the census data would be more relevant than a voters list that has persons on it who do not currently live in the constituency where they are registered. The added question is should boundaries be based mainly on persons who have registered to vote or should it be drawn based on persons who may be eligible to vote? Its amazing that the government agents claim the voters list is flawed, hence the claimed need for re-registration , yet argue it can be used to devise boundaries.

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**just asking** » 2013-03-11 18:00

If the government thinks that the present list of electors is so flawed and they are changing the eligibility rules, then how can the boundary commission have any idea of the number of people that will be eligible to vote in the newly designed constituencies. In the absence of a total re-registration , with the new street and house numbers used to determine real numbers, then the whole exercise of the boundaries commission can only be viewed as a political gimmick designed to create political turmoil.

**Professor** » 2013-03-11 17:08

I am equally convinced that ABLP cannot win this case in the courts, based on my review the applicable legal standard.

How about a friendly wager of our blogging privillege here on Caribarena... if ALP lose you stop blogging and if they win I will stop blogging.

**Contractor** » 2013-03-11 17:06

Thanks Judge. Good Job. Leave the boundaries alone until we beat up UPP as_is in the next election.

**Dig It** » 2013-03-11 15:56

The only I see a 'win\win'situat ion with the BC 'final report' is to have the 17 Constituencies reduced to 7 (all the 6 parishes including Barbuda). Tenman and JF II, well said! The "Population Census" should be the 'key' driving engine to make fair and unbiased report to the public! Then what was the purpose of altering or keep certain 'constituency boundaries,' if you can't "acces" census? The more BC explains, the more I need an aspring! The population is growing and so does the 'minds' of those in it that can see and smell something 'fishy' with this report. I am of the view that at the of the day, the BC will protect the Humble Servant, as he gets a 'small portion' but a very good one indeed. It's either we make the changes fair enough or if not leave the boundaries alone.

**just asking** » 2013-03-11 15:14

Al is just sour puss..... Gaston was quite ready to defend Robin at all cost if they had taken his constituency and I am sure if it was also negatively impacting Molwyn he would do the same but can I say the same if it were Molwyn?

**my way of helping** » 2013-03-11 14:43

I sat and think about this situation and ALP will win this court case under the unfair advantage principle/rule/ doctrine. All they have to do is find the elements, show that the constituencies they change are more likely to vote alp from pass reliable data. Some kind of deceptive practises rule

I guarantee a win, well, in our courts, i can't guarantee uniformity of rulings.

**Al @ Bold Face et al** » 2013-03-11 14:09

How much money did Gaston and Asot contribute to help pay Astaphan to represent Molwyn, Robin and Lester? I hate to tell you my friend that your nose is growing but it is. DID GASTON NEVER ONCE MET WITH ANY SENIOR PARTY MEMBER TO INQUIRE how the case was going? You want me to feel sorry now that Gaston's ATM source might be without a job. Sorry not dis pickey head boy from Grays Farm.

**my way of helping** » 2013-03-11 12:40

Tyranny. I am so afraid of my Government and my people. They will do all manner of wrong to win anything.

**labourite** » 2013-03-11 11:58

I wish it is even reduced further to 12 constituency especially when in the same oecs we have islands twice bigger than ours like Grenada and St lucia with populations 110,000 and 180,000 with 15 and 17 consstituencies respectively.we just have too much good for nothing ministers and parliamentarian s,some of these spectators needs to be combined to function as a whole head.too much ineptness, incompetence and dunceness.

**Just asking** » 2013-03-11 10:49

How can Asot cause labour to loose an election when he has never lost his seat neither was he ever leader of the party. That reads so foolish...... If you want to lay blame as to why ALP lost the elections you have to blame the leader in charge at that time and the politicians who failed to deliver their constituencies on election day.

**Villager** » 2013-03-11 10:47

St Phillips North also never gone BLUE, and has the longest serving member of Parliament. Now they combine both is a done deal for Labour.

**tenman** » 2013-03-11 10:35

John French II, exactly what I thought. It seems Linley Winter has been working on offering them this out. It was not until he started spouting it, that they have now decided to take on this foolish argument. However we all know there are methods available to do the mapping required, but as usual either laziness or bad-mindedness rules supreme

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**Bachra Mary** » 2013-03-11 10:26

Jimmy Fuller intentionally threw the ABLP under the bus! He following the dictates of the former Leader who put him there.

**Just asking** » 2013-03-11 10:11

Jimmy Fuller is not the enemy. Even if he did not sign the documents they would have found away to work around him. He is one voice... they have many more.

**Just asking** » 2013-03-11 10:09

Your statement is only true if Antiguans forget the hardship to which we are now faced because of this administration' s incompetence, deceitfulness, and failures. The voters should decide who will lead up for the next five years and if we are fed up and want change then we all go out to vote against these idiots and they will loose unless they tamper with ballot boxes.

**Wadada** » 2013-03-11 10:01

The removal of Asot is the greatest moment for the House of Labor.. This fellar has caused labor to loss 2 elections and on for the 3rd.
Robin ;Molwyn,,Lester and Gaston have all served this country well in Tourism,Economi c development,Pla nning ect.
Robin built APUA ,the fiber optic ring and left the intitution with over 28 m in cash..
Asot has done nothing but cause problem starting with the Galvanize !!!

**ANTIGUAN WOMAN** » 2013-03-11 09:55

Who is your comment directed at?? Is it Molwyn that designed the changes? Why dont you,ll learn to think before you,ll just attack for personal reasons,your comment makes no sense.

**ANTIGUAN WOMAN** » 2013-03-11 09:48

Where is the census report???? Its long overdue.If these changes are not been made on account of the Census report,then leave them as is,until you can present us with the evidence to justify these changes,it will be considered Jerrymandering. Hope this is not the reason for withholding the census report,waiting until this is passed to give us the results of the Census.It is still my belief anyway that changes or not the UPP will lose the next election.

**fuss** » 2013-03-11 09:37

U alll continue laugh if u welook at this one man jimmy fuller just put the government back into upp hands by signing that paper 1 more term off upp in poverty

**Just asking** » 2013-03-11 09:23

Please I beg of you, do not let a new fridge or stove make you turn a blind eye for 5 more years because they new fridge will be empty of food and the stove will stay brand new as you will not be able to buy guys or food to cook on it. Let this inept government know that you will no longer sit down and take foolishness . By the same token demand that the next administration take note because if they slip up, dem a slip out faster than fast. They will not have the excuse of being a new administration and they need more than one term to fix things. We want to see short term goals realized before we trust you with medium or long term goals.

**Just asking** » 2013-03-11 08:48

The only way this will work in UPP favour is if Antiguans forget the sorry state of affairs we are now in and buy into their lies and more lies and cash given out during election campaign. So I am not too worried but its up to the Antiguan people not the politicians.

**Ms Scotland** » 2013-03-11 08:40

Politics aside, we have too many MP’s/constituen cies. Apart from St. Johns, the other parishes should only have one MP.

**Youthful Labourite** » 2013-03-11 08:17

I think the A&B Labour Party should welcome the change/developm ents regarding the St. Peter constituency, for a very long time they should've gotten rid of Asot Michael.

Molwyn can't win an election South/West of Jennings, so he better not think he's gonna displace Samantha Marshall in Bolans and the other southern communities, because we Don't want Him, WE WANT SAMANTHA MARSHALL!!!!

**Professor** » 2013-03-11 08:15

Politically speaking it is a strategically brilliant move on the part of the UPP government. St. PETER is the only constituency in Antigua that has never been blue in the history of Antigua's bipartisan elections.

Maybe now the ALP candidate for St Peter will be able to take his rightful place on the UPP ticket.

**Boldface** » 2013-03-11 08:13

"When you na know...you just na know!" Yep...The ABLP with Gaston Browne as Leader started to file a law suit against the deleting of St. Phillip's North. As a matter of fact Robin himself had agreed to swear to an affidavit.

So please...crawl back under your proverbial rock and just "chill"!

**tenman** » 2013-03-11 08:01

If the aim was equalization, why would an already small (the smallest with the exception of Barbuda-947 and St. Philip South-973) constituency, which showed a total of 1447 votes in 2009, be made smaller? Logically I would think that smaller constituencies would increase not decrease in size if the purpose, equalization was to be realized.

I also find the argument that because the census was badly designed we could not garner constituency data. The census included housing locations so all that was needed was for persons to map locations to a constituency. Yes a house recount would have been needed in some (NOT ALL) instances but only laziness would be a barrier.
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**Hmmm** » 2013-03-11 07:55

Bye bye Asot. Great work Jimmy Fuller.

**Confused** » 2013-03-11 07:53

I agree with your comments 100 percent.

The journalism is shabby - pure and simple. Chups

**Just asking** » 2013-03-11 07:50

I guess you were not at the town hall meeting in Parham where they presented Mr. Yearwood to familiarize himself with the people and the people with him in case such a thing happens with these changes? You all like to demonize people with having all the facts.

Al » 2013-03-11 06:33

Note to self Asot, when ya neighbor house on fire, wet yours & ask if they need help. Neither you or Gaston ever mentioned your concern over Comrade Yearwood not having a constituency and did nothing about it but say, oh well. Asot all I can do now is laugh. Lets see how Comrade Gaston helps you with this one. Bye, Bye Asot pssst keep lots of mouth wash & hanisizers close by, I figure a man like you will have lots of use for it now.

**not again** » 2013-03-11 06:31

I wonder if the boundaries commission can work on king extradition case. BOOM. Bye bye Asot

**John French II** » 2013-03-11 06:14

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock! OMG! "Dem really believe Wi Foolie".
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the Commission was unable to “fully **s the density of population among the various constituencies, as the last Population Census was not conducted on a constituency-by-constituency basis, it was obvious that the population across the island had grown significantly from a figure of 75,816 persons in 2001 to a figure of 88,411 person in 2011.”
The report said, “This in itself required the Commission to **s how residential areas had expanded over that 10-year period, & to recognise & capture these changes in residential settlements within the proposed constituency boundaries.”

Census Data is collected with addresses.
If the "Bewildered & Bemused Electorate" buy this nonsense from Commissioner 81st then you deserve what is meted out to you.
With addresses, it requires very little work to obtain the information. That data & the resultant information from all areas of GoAB appear to be missing should be cause for concern by every educated, sane thinking resident on the Rock. The 21st Century? Mr. IT Minister, what say you?
Oh Gad! Pray Fuh Mi Picknees!

**Contractor** » 2013-03-11 06:13

Stop confusing the electorate and leave the boundaries as_is.

**not again** » 2013-03-11 06:03

Bye bye asot. Free at last, free at last, thank God Antigua is free at last. Thank you boundaries commission, you have done what the all should have done LONG ago. NOW the party can heal. I wonder if Gaston had a hand in this :-*

**Jimmy** » 2013-03-11 05:43

Maulwyn needs to stay and fight Chester! Samantha did all the work in St Mary's South while he was on Fire and Steele! He can't do better than her in St. Mary's South, even with the addition of Jennings! If he feels he can win, then do a poll!

**1ken** » 2013-03-11 04:45

It would be good if we could see a copy of the full report, to see how exactly the boundries have been devided.

**1ken** » 2013-03-11 04:42

Tell the source, the Commission cannot determin who will be representative in the various constituencies.

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