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Police Commissioner Demands Passports of Rally Speakers

Eugene Humphreys has hit yet another stumbling blockAntigua St. John’s – ‘Minister of Helps’ Eugene Humphreys has hit yet another stumbling block in his attempt to secure permission for public protest.

This time it is a demand from Police Commissioner Vere Brown for Humphreys to supply a copy of the passports of the individuals listed to speak during a proposed march on Thursday.
 



Humphreys explained that he has petitioned the Commissioner for permission once again to stage a march on August 16 on what has become his usual route through the city.
 
He said in that letter, like many others before, he provided the names of the individuals he expected would speak at the end. The names were the same as in other approved marches with the exception of two new persons.
 
The full list of speakers includes Eugene Humphreys, Colin Sampson, Errol James, Lionel Hurst, Ralph Francis, Hugh John, Elroy Benjamin and John Williams.
 
But Humphreys said he received correspondence from the Commissioner of Police, through his secretary, demanding that the identity page of the passports belonging to four of those seven individuals, namely Errol James, Hugh John, Elroy Benjamin and John Williams, must be provided before the application can be processed.
 
“The letter that I sent to the Commissioner clearly states that these people are nationals of Antigua & Barbuda,” Humphreys said.
 
He added that he has since made inquiries into the matter from former Commissioners of Police with whom he maintains contact.
 
“I was told that it was nonsense because Section 62 of the Public Order Act only states that if someone is coming from outside the country their nationality and identity must be sent to the Minister of National Security and Commissioner of Police.
 
“I will not get no passport from anybody. I am not immigration. I will not do it. Vere Brown will not get this from me. He cannot get it. It looks like he wants me to join him in breaking the law,” Humphreys said.
 
Over the past several weeks, the self-appointed ‘Minister of Helps’ has managed to successfully hold at least two marches through the city. And he said that although he has not received permission to take to the street on Thursday, he has not quite decided whether or not he would stay at home.
 
“Tomorrow is the march and I will make a decision on what I will do then,” Humphreys said.

The march will look to reiterate calls for Prime Minister Spencer to institute a Commission of Inquiry into the overspending for the fencing of playing fields and basketball courts around Antigua as well as the Wadadli Power Plant.
 


Humphreys had also filed a separate request to hold a march on August 23 commencing at Michael’s Mount. This demonstration, however, would be a show of support for the resignation or removal of the Commissioner of Police, Vere Browne, “due to the lack of suitable responses to the increase of crime in our country, and the division within our Police Force”, the organiser indicated.

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#16 Concerned Resident » 2012-08-18 08:31

If you are a bona fide Antigua/Barbuda national, do you necessarily have a Passport? No. Not all citizens have passports. Not all citizens must have passports unless some law obligates this that I am not aware of. COP Brown's interaction with Mr Humphreys goes back a long time. Now the feud is in the public domain. Unfortunate indeed.
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Passport country!!!

#15 It Is Me » 2012-08-16 22:25

It seems we turned into a passport country all of a sudden!!!

You need to renew your drivers license ... walk with your passport!!!

You need to get school uniform ... walk with your passport!!!

You need to talk on a podium after a march ... walk with your passport!!!

They are practically forcing people to get passports just to get around in your own country of birth!!!
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red

#14 tiga » 2012-08-16 20:56

bias bias upp
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@ tenman

#13 Colin » 2012-08-16 20:06

You are wasting your time talking logic to the desperately delusionary.
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New voting laws in the USA

#12 Onlooker » 2012-08-16 19:53

This is like the new voting laws in the USA requiring people who never had an ID to now go and get one. Grandma who has voted for decades suddenly cannot vote anymore.She has not DL and is not so mobile and doesn't have the time and money to go through all of this. Therefore Grandma won't bother and won't vote. Nationals are not suppose to proof in their own country that they are nationals. Only when they travel.
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@Hmmmm

#11 Observer » 2012-08-16 19:44

There is no requirement for an Antiguan to have a passport in your own country. A passport is a travel document. Lots of Antiguans do not own a password. Some not even a birth cerificate. Anyway you missed the point of the request. Non - national are to have their passport with them. If the commissioner has any doubt of any of the speakers being non-national he need to so request of that person for clarification. Strange that you would refer to others as not so bright. Just look in your own mirror and ask the question again.
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frustrate

#10 tenman » 2012-08-16 19:32

The public order act lays out the procedure and it simply requires that if a speaker is a non national, they (the non national) will need to apply for a permit to speak. Section 6(2) makes it clear the process for the non national to apply and the application for the permit goes to the minister not the COP. Mr. Humpeys has fulfilled the legal requirement since the law states nothing about the need for him to provide proof of citizenship. The COP is simply trying to frustrate Humpreys from exercising his constitutional rights and has added a requirement he knows Humpreys legally is not required to meet



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the law is the law

#9 rupert j. » 2012-08-16 16:19

did minister of helps want something and did not get it, sounds like sour grapes, he claims to have read the law but he seems nit to understand it bcause its very clear the commish has the right to request this sort of information.
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RE: Police Commissioner Demands Passports of Rally Speakers

#8 Roadwarrior » 2012-08-16 15:46

Eugene Humphreys is making a backside and a jackasss of himself. Just because he says in a letter that some individuals are Antiguans does not mean that it is so. All that is being asked is that he provides the proof. He must understand that he is asking on behalf of the men - not they themselves. Why not have them make a copy of the requisite pages from their passport and supply it. BTW Avid Reader, there is nothing wrong with making a copy of a page of your passport.
What the hell does he mean by joining the Commissioner in breaking the law? And then he talks about former Commissioners saying that Com. Browne is wrong! I would love to hear the former Commissioner who can point to the constitution and say that Browne is wrong.
E Humphreys has from time to time shown a elements of being a dunce element and this is just one of them.
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RE: Police Commissioner Demands Passports of Rally Speakers

#7 Hmmmm » 2012-08-16 11:34

@ Young analyst .. I am assuming that you are still wet behind the ears so I will give u a simple emaple to bring across my previous point. Now you are a a born Antiguan who have live abroad and speaks with a heavy accent. You are applying for a job in a private firm and you claim that you dont need a work because you are a born Antigua. So the Company ask for proof oc citizenship. Are they out of place to ask?? are they immigration??/ are they Labor Department??? No they are not but if verification is needed then the responsibility is yours to provide the information. Your word is not bible and you saying that you are a born Antiguan doesnt make it so. The Commissioner is right
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RE: Police Commissioner Demands Passports of Rally Speakers

#6 UNITED STATES » 2012-08-16 10:34

Some of you Antiguans would take pleasure in breaking the laws of the land.The commissioner has the right to ask for those passports.He did not ask for the passports for all of the speakers.Most of the speakers I knew them when I was living in Antigua.The last three names I do not know them.
Are those men Antiguans,just present their passports.I am an American citizen,Antigua n by birth.I cannot go to St.Kitts and speak on a political platform without due process.Ralph Francis is a lawyer.Perhaps work in scarce in his office.Cutie should give him with some new clients.
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@Hmmmm

#5 Avid Reader » 2012-08-16 10:16

It is illegal to copy any page of a passport, Humphreys has no right to any part of their passport in his possession, which means each of these men must go to the police department themselves.

If you have ever had to deal with Antigua's police department, you will understand the insanity. You scratch your head and just walk out.
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want your cake and it too??

#4 pied piper » 2012-08-16 09:43

Section 62 clearly states that the commissioner who doubts these people are national must need some form of identification of these people. So why is Mr. Helps so adamant to go against the laws that he clearly read.

as Hmmmm suggested if the commission requests this and you know in your heart that your word is truth then prove it.

we make big things out of nothing in this country.
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What in the world?

#3 Morris » 2012-08-16 08:48

So the commish is also in charge of immigration to be requesting passport info? Things that make you say hmmmm.
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Elections Coming soon

#2 young analyst » 2012-08-16 07:31

I wonder if this Commissioner realises he was Politically appointed, hhhmmm and there will be general elections shortly, I guess not. But why does he need the passports of only these four, interesting guessing again they know the status of the others. Mr Browne elections coming soon
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RE: Police Commissioner Demands Passports of Rally Speakers

#1 Hmmmm » 2012-08-16 06:22

I dont get this... Ok so the letter said they are nationals if Vere Browne says some of these persons are unknown to him what is the big deal if he ask for verification??? Is Humphreys word bible?? Just provide the proof requested and have your march. Some of these people marching and protesting seem not to be very bright. Its so ridiculous its not even funny.
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