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**taxnomore** » 2012-05-02 20:02

I live in Canada, have many friends who visit your beautiful island, one thing to be sure if you give the chinese an inch they will take everything without any regard for native peoples or enviroment, here in Canada they are doing the same kind of thing gradually and insidiously. Just look no further than your lobster fishing industry. Do not protest the Chinese they will rape and pillage your island. Your politicians are the ones to blame, people of Antigua react now together or you and your grandchildren will be very destitute in the near future. :sad:

**UNITED STATES** » 2012-05-02 18:29

Headlines on your site:Robin warns Chinese.Now it is Lone Wolf gives Chinese ultimatum.It is amazing that you the people in Antigua cannot tell your governments,upp and alp what to do.However,you will want to tell the Chinese what to do.In my opinion you should learn to clean your house before you tell others how to clean theirs.Give ultimatums to your politicians and if they do not live up to expectations,ki ck them out.One of the good things that came out of that power plant in Antigua,no more long outages.I know what I am talking about,I have visited Antigua every year.

**Power Plant Cost** » 2012-05-02 03:57

Jeb that is the wanton misrepresentati on of the W.P.P. that keeps fuelling this thing.
Ask anyone that works at APC who is willing to talk honestly about the amount of steel and the size of the structural members that were put into the buildings. They must have seen as they drive by day by day. I am sure that the buildings did not go up overnight

**jeb** » 2012-05-01 23:20

So you think an increase in building costs would inflate the cost by US$20 plus million? I would suggest you go and take a good hard look at the WPP from the outside because it is highly unlikely that entry to see inside would be granted (it is fenced and guarded). You will see very crappy looking ugly green buildings that have cracks all over…I had to wonder about steel quantity and quality/stabili ty of foundation. Listen to the noise and take note of the black smoke and note the dark mess/spillage outside. Seeing that disgrace of a building, housing engines clearly shown in the photos as rusty and old, was a get real eye opener to blatant rip-off moment for this Antiguan...whil e at Crabbs check APC's building and cleanliness for comparison.

**SlyThatGuy** » 2012-05-01 23:17

Since the prime minister has pledged to bring the matter to parliament soon,my strong advise to my fellow countrymen -and I understand you're exercising your rights to determine your future -is to exercise patience by ending the protest until that time comes.At that time,we might hopefully get him to reveal all of the facts surrounding this case.

**Skyewill** » 2012-05-01 22:53

Haul the man over coals? I have never met the guy. I give him the same chance I give you. In fact I hope he runs as an independant. Lets be real all that IHI stuff is getting old,hell, lock them up already. Talk, talk, and more talk, Brother man I am independant on Antigua side. I don't want to see either side hurt, I have friends of all sides, BUT: He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

**Power Plant Cost** » 2012-05-01 20:57

A power plant is largely made of concrete and steel. The activities that are involved in putting together a power plant are driven by oil. Steel prices tripled between 2006 and 2008/9. Oil price triples also, while cement price doubled. I just cannot for the life of me understand how any right thinking person would expect that a power plant contracted in 2008 would cost the same as a power plant contracted in 2006. It is just not possible.
All the studies I have seen show a steep rise in construction cost between 2006 and 2008. Power plant cost no exception. We need to get real in Antigua and Barbuda.

**The Godfather** » 2012-05-01 19:57

Skyewill, don't chat foolishness, because his name is Bird he cannrot the hauled over the coals. This is the only issue he wraps himself around, what about other issues, he is not consistent, and there is no truth surrounding his actions. What about IHI, where is his ultimatum to Lester Bird, Sir xxx, Asot! So the issue of WPP takes token headlines over all others, answer me, fair is that. When the Lone Wolf and his Bngade, start holding up placards start demanding accountability for all the past wrongs, then I will change my views
about him. For now I will keep asking bout IHI, so if you are hurt by constant agitation, keep silent!

**RAWLSTON POMPEY** » 2012-05-01 19:43

GODFATHER,
You would appreciate that my comments have always been limited to that which seek to "...edify, enlighten, inform and/or educate." Thus, have always avoided political views; ...they breed contempt.

But do believe in healthy and respectful discussions, no matter how sensitive were the issues or contrasting the views. Most commentators seemed guided by these principles. If you felt singled out, perhaps, you too may wish to take counsel from "...Proverbs 12 :1."

Do hold you in high esteem, equally as much as your comments are respected. Best wishes Godfather.

Caribarena may wish to look closely at comments clearly suggestive of "...PERSONAL ATTACKS----rude and offensive , insulting and degrading" and be guided accordingly.

**Skyewill** » 2012-05-01 19:24

this is a natiional critical issue. Not quarreling is a waste of time but instead fighting will yield more fruits. if martin Kinf had just sit down at take the abuse for much longer America woould have exploded. President wanted to free the slaves because he knew if he did not what would happen. In case you dont know nobody turns the other cheek forever. did jesus not wipped the Pharacies out of the temple? Yes a good ass wooping is sometimes deserved

**Skyewill** » 2012-05-01 19:14

I believe Vere is a man on his own. his last name have nothing to do with anything. let that man's action speak for itself. tell me something he did but please stop showing your ignoramious's's sS

**Skyewill** » 2012-05-01 19:09

Sir, MSgt Williams Reports. i still have not addressed the plant. I am addressing the loan. I understand loans. please don't think I am sleeping. I was at Ground Zero just a few weeks ago. You did get me to laugh when you mentioned the PM. I do hope he release the information with full disclosure because it is public information. I see the potential for major embarrasment for the Chinese internationally , they really blew it. Lone wolf group got them by the sesticle something I don't believe even supers ever had. It is a new form of warfare, instead of a traditional war this new approach will be most effective. The Power Plant issue is a very sad one no need for me to focus on that you guys got that covered. No SURRENDER, NO RETREAT

**The Godfather** » 2012-05-01 18:27

Pompey, I find your reasoning bias, I made two comment, the latter was the last, so why was I single out. Is it because hs name is Bird? You appease Vere Bird 111 so called sane thinking, but condemn my rational reasoning.

You have posted previous comments chastising other bloggers diametrically opposed to your opinion, so what is your argument! I maintain my point of view, send the ultimatum to Lester Bird, and never again we want anymore Bird in politics. I guess that's what ruffled your feathers. Forward Ever, Backward Never, no more Bird's will dominate us! Nuff said.

**marco polo** » 2012-05-01 18:05

An interesting mix.... Cant wait to see how this one turns out....

**RAWLSTON POMPEY** » 2012-05-01 17:40

Vere Bird III,

There will always be comments that may appear far removed from current critical national issues. They may be vexatious to the spirit. These may not be allowed to distort sane thinking to the extent of getting into useless quarrels.

Therefore, you may wish to take guidance from Proverbs 20:3 [NLT] that says "...Avoiding a fight is an honour; ...Only fools insist on quarreling."

The GODFATHER appeared just as impish and provocative as his comments. Good Day Godfather. Thouhgt you were on a sojourn overseas.

**The Godfather** » 2012-05-01 17:10

Vere Bird 111 you expect to dictate to me after 28 years of exile, you are really a Dunce element! We do no need anymore Bird's dominance.

**Vere C. Bird III** » 2012-05-01 16:35

People like you and your stupid comments are why people like me will continue to speak out against the U.P.P. and the dunce Baldwin Spencer. Keep commenting!!!

**Wadadli Blogger** » 2012-05-01 16:29

I am on record (in Caribarena) saying that the Lone Wolf protesters should of written a letter to the Chinese ambassador and cc one to their counterparts in China before we picket them and their embassy. Having seen that this letter has been writen I am anxiously waiting a response from the Chinese. We will no if they are intentionally meddling in our internal politics from their reaction. If they fail to satisfy my mind by either demanding APUA and the PM release all neccessary documents related to the power plant then I will be joining the Lone Wolf picketers. But the people got to take it further and Unite (Lone Wolf, ALP, Media, NGO's and the caring public) this issue is gonna seriously affect all of us in the future. And while the Chinese will be getting their Electricity from Natural resources and living good we in Antigua will be struggling to buy oil for a 20 century power plant in the 21st century that is not even in good working condition from the start!!!

I also think Vere and the Lone Wolves should of required the Chinese to make sure the new airport deal and all other deals on the table with China COME TO PARLIAMENT BEFORE IT IS STARTED!!!

**The Godfather** » 2012-05-01 13:16

I can recall Stanford's ultimatum to your Uncle Lester, now is a Bird, absent for more than 28 years giving ultimatum to the PRC. Firstly, you are jumping ahead of other cases, give your Uncle Lester that same ultimatum regarding IHI, Royal Antiguan, Vesco, Arms to South Africa etc. Have you researched how many laws were broken by your family members?

No other Bird will ever be elected to political office, they have left us with nought!

**Judge Dredd** » 2012-05-01 13:08

I have heard a number of UPP Ministers on Observer Radio say that they cannot say if the Wadadlie Power plant is new. Namba, Winston Williams and John Maginley.
We know about Wilmouth's letter calling for an Enquiry and Harold duck the issue and run laying all responsibility on the APUA engineer.
Does this sound like a ringing endorsement? This is 5 Ministers that will not make a definitive statement. They all fraid jail.

**Legghornn** » 2012-05-01 13:01

I wander about you! I promised myself that I would have just ignored all the bias ignorance you keep blogging. I admit, you have moved me off my crease. How can you just keep defending UPP and there misgivings so boldy, when even at least one minister within the UPP govt has called on his leader, PM BS, to initiate an inquiry into the generator fiasco. Other ministers within the UPP govt have claimed they do no know whether the engines are new or not. Yet, you are claiming that they came new because they arrived wrapped in plastic, how silly! Anyway, let me kool off. SMH.

**Dig It** » 2012-05-01 12:32

Tobi, you are quick to attack the Lone Wolf and their "constitutional " rights but not the "laws" broken by the PM, in getting "parliament approval" of any further debt to this nation! Again, where is the "accoutability" and "transperancy" to do what's "right?" The PM, the "Great Negotiator," and members of his cabinet can't tell us or verified the WPP is old or new! Does that look "pleasing" to you or the tax payers? Why the "secrecy" to come "clean" and justify 52 million dollars on WPP? And, what do you think about the "guarded" construction jobs at the new airport terminal by mostly skilled workers in the PM's constituency? Doesn't other constituency skilled workers deserve to be getting a "equal" share of the pie? Is this what the PM calls in his "manifesto" when he said local contractors will work with "foreign" contractors? How can we ever see "change" in this country if we would a total "break-down" in a system that avoids accountability? Tobi, you are entitled to your opinion but at this point I find that you are one "out of order!"

**JP Farnsworth** » 2012-05-01 12:04

I saw the pictures of the generators when they arrived they were wrapped in plastic just like when new cars arrive at Hadeed so they must be new. We would have left the plastic on the seats but they would melt.

**Tobi** » 2012-05-01 11:27

Lone Wolf is barking up the wrong tree. It is a fatal error for any party or fanatic group therein to attack the investor. Common sense should enlighten any fool of that pearl of wisdom. I hope when the ALP will assume power again that they are prepared to deal with the fall-out from this misplaced treatment of the Chinese.

**Lone Wolf from Afar** » 2012-05-01 10:29

Sky I wondered when you would take your head from the clouds and finally have somethng to say about the power plant and the wanton spending of our monies. You finally have a voice.
What took you so long? Did you need your cronie Baldwin to admit to you that the plant was old before you had an opinion and a voice?
I am happy that Vere is doing something about this and is not going to back down from the task at hand. I am still baffled that many Antiguans are still sitting back on their laurels and not joining the march. Just know Vere, I am supporting you 100%. NO REATREAT NO SURRENDER!!

**Mark 1** » 2012-05-01 09:29

PM could not exposes the details if any on the Chinese Power deal for his own side might have rejected it when asked to present the technical spects
and local engineering oversite.
The cost of 1.6 per mwh vs 1 m at APC would have been exposed and questioned! Remember his own Cabinet appoved the APC Turnkey project for 50.1 mw at 49 m including sub-stations,fu el tanks buildings ,warrenty ect.
Keep up the GOOD Work VereIII you are on to something BIG>>

**Flat** » 2012-05-01 08:57

ok VERE.... Keep the struggle up. You have my support.

**lethal.** » 2012-05-01 08:30

why are you bothering the poor won ping people.

they are not the ones to blame. if you get a golden opportunity, wouldn't you grab it. antigua people need to go after xalxwxn and his scampish cronies, money gluts. they are the ones thats selling antigua to get rich, and leave you people broke and sorry. don't let the innocent suffer for the guilty. what are you afraid of. baldwin don't know voodoo, or he would be smarter.

**Vere C. Bird III** » 2012-05-01 08:26

So just call me Vere then :lol:

**Skyewill** » 2012-05-01 07:54

In every loan closing process there is a statement of disbursment or Settlement Statement. It will/SHOULD tell you where all the money went and how it was distributed. In another story: I strongly disagree with the Chinese participating in that meeting, I don't believe that was a directive from China, that was very amaturesque! Spinning out of control, Recall. David is about to kick Goliath's ass. I'm a news Junkie and a student of Psychology, the study of how people think, in persuite of the ability to predict. This could be one of the biggest news stories of this decade with international implications and David is going to win agan!

**Skyewill** » 2012-05-01 07:33

Yep, in underwriting a loan to a country it is automatic and well withing the guidelines that the lender vet also the rules of the country borrowing. Someone have to authorize the BORROWING also and that someone is PARLIMENT. The people who signed and approved this loan may very well be the new owners of the Power Plant. If you guys go back many blogs. You will see my warning on loans. "EVERYTIME A LOAN IS PERFECTED IT GIVES A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ADD "JUNK FEES " paid to people to stuff their pockets. This is where most loan officers that were locked up and convicted made their mistake. Because Antigua have NO LAW for its oligarchs they never thought us dumb niggers would see what is really going on, being Black and stupid we would never understand. So just like slavery days we have our WANT-TO-BE'S, who would sell his brother to the Egyptian. Yes, True, true. If Public Accounts are not Audited then there is no way to know if the country can pay such a loan back. You can't borrow and the lender can't lend. The loan is a bigger issue than the Power Plant.

**Victim!** » 2012-05-01 07:30

The Chinese, I believe, have the power to compel PM BS and his sidekick Shoul to come clean and be transparent on the power plant deal - so why aren't they doing it?

I heard Winston Williams say on radio yesterday that he didn't know if the generators were old or new - he said those answers were above his pay grade! You would think PM BS would have at least come clean with Members of his Government? If hasn't come clean with them how can he be expected to come clean with the voters? In any other country the media would have jumped all over this statement (Sunday on ZDK)!

No one in the Government has come out and said the engines are new! Even Ambassador Shoul is now accused of telling a senior UPP Minister that the engines are old! China should try and keep its name clean by releasing all documents in its possession!

**Dig It** » 2012-05-01 06:56

Amazing that we have "laws" broken in this country with the Chinese "loans" in WPP, public accounts NOT up to date (leapfrogging.. .ribbit), a "slap-on-the-ri sk" fencing and sundry scandal investigation, and the GG and the PM don't see a problem with that! We have a right to see to it that our "negotiators" and "Great Negotiator" negotiate in "good-faith" with the Chinese. It is time we make the "wrongs, right" by upholding our laws governing the land with full\total "accountability " and "transperacy," and, not, let the "color" of a party affects our judgment to redress all "unfair-play" against the people and its sovereign!

**baldhead** » 2012-05-01 06:55

Good Luck Vear.I hope you can soon have a WOLF PACK Following.

**Flat** » 2012-05-01 06:54

Lonewolf, I do not like your last name, But I support your efforts. These sundrels MUST GO!

**PEACE** » 2012-05-01 06:04

While you are at it,PLEASE REMEMBER,the Gov't of Antigua Barbuda was ORDERED to SUBMIT AUDITED ACCOUNT to the PARLIAMENT,by the COURT. Try and get the COURT to have them CHARGE with CONTEMPT

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