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**chris** » 2012-06-13 12:58

"There are no reports of injury or loss of life." That is total bull**. My girlfriend's friend contacted me and told me she was burned and is now in the hospital.

**Larry** » 2012-06-12 14:23

I'd have to agree with many here there would be a great concern if these records were unique and copies were not stored in a secondary remote location to prevent their loss from an incident such as this.

Common disaster preparedness and vital record protection practices strongly suggest that this is the case, and the idea that these records were stored within such a short distance from fuel tanks and other hazards is hard to comprehend.

Many times the storage and control of records comes under the purview of Federal or other regulations and compliance is mandatory. In other cases, organizations are required to"police themselves", but a failure to adequately protect critical information assets has resulted in the financial collapse of many organizations in the past.

Thankfully no one was reported as injured and no lives were lost, and I wish LIAT the best in recovering from this incident.

**vicnes** » 2012-06-11 16:28

K. Kona, thanks for the information.

**kirikho kona** » 2012-06-11 13:38

Vicnes, runway 10 refers to an old unused runway now used as a parking area (currently incorporated into the main ramp area on the northern side of the aerodrome while retaining its original shape on the southern side or the aerodrome). The hangars/fuel tanks mentioned are a safe distance from the active runway 07/25.

konatsu

**THE GODFATHER** » 2012-06-11 13:08

To be more specific see Chapter 16 page 31 Fueling Operations

**vicnes** » 2012-06-11 12:54

Why were the fuel storage tanks built close to runaway 10?

**Scotty Pitts** » 2012-06-11 12:42

Suggestion when rebuilding the LIAT Hangar... it will be good if a fire sprinkler system install in the rebuilding of the new LIAT Hangar. It will helps prevent large damage to the hangar or any of the building strucure in the future. Cost cutting

TC » 2012-06-11 11:59

As an ex-worker in the technical dept at the hangar, I am indeed saddened today.I am very glad there was no loss of life, but the loss of critical info will set LIAT back for years. I hope they had a back up plan in place.

Me » 2012-06-11 11:30

Actually the firemen were using the foam in addition to the water.

**man about town** » 2012-06-11 11:28

There are a lot of exports in Antigua, but still nothing seems right

**June too Soon** » 2012-06-11 11:25

A hangar is where the plane is kept. Like a garage for a car.

**lamanex** » 2012-06-11 11:20

That is where I worked when I was home untill 1978, hope none of their employees were injured.

**unknown** » 2012-06-11 11:15

The only thing Antiguans are experts at is onlooking...

**Jumbee Picknee** » 2012-06-11 11:05

Greetings folks, it is said, there there is a rhyme behind every reason. I hope that lesson's are learnt, as the investigations continues, and that we can become wiser in the design, management etc of such important facillities. I can't fathom, with all the trainning that our Fire Department have recieved over the years, that they would use water instead of foam on a fuel fire, from a distance, when foam is sprayed, it has the appearance of water and since all reporting has been done from some distance so far, how can anyone be certain as to what was used. On the other hand, I hope, that LIAT has a computerized backup of all pertinent information. As for normal operations, I doubt it, since our facillity is one of the main hubs for LIAT.

**THE GODFATHER** » 2012-06-11 10:53

LIAT (1974) LTD is a great airline servicing the Caribbean, the latest accident at the hangar was a life teaching moment for everyone. Management, must implement future safeguards to prevent such hazards.

There are many preventions each of us can adhere too, since many such hazards exist amongst us. Many examples are documented, particular reference 7-5 Fire Control page 14(B) Class B: see link

http://www.hood.army.mil/dhr/pubs/fhr420-1.pdf

**cuteness** » 2012-06-11 10:49

what is liat hanger?

**anonymous** » 2012-06-11 10:48

so my flight is still on for next week?? just tu make it clear?

**concern** » 2012-06-11 10:44

The Japanese are big on safety. Maybe we can get some help from them. Was it confirmed that water was used to out the flames? Just wondering

**Eric** » 2012-06-11 10:32

Wow!!! We in Antigua are so smart – We are experts on every subject – why don’t we stop the speculation and let the experts do their job??????

**GoodJobBob** » 2012-06-11 10:32

But that will only happen if the US charges and tries him? Is arson even a crime in Antigua? Who is the arsonist's lawyer? All important questions.

**Vigilant** » 2012-06-11 09:58

*irreplaceable*

**Captain Hindsight** » 2012-06-11 09:47

To: Just wondering

Caribarena did a quick ninja edit and took that part out. It went to something of the effect: As fire crews doused the flames with water the fires would reignite and explosions occured.

yt » 2012-06-11 09:35

Even though I was on burma road I could clearly see they were using water but it seemed they were using it on the outside areas around the building. Some firetrucks were filling just by the WIOC Gas Station on the airport road. I believe they basically contained the fire (didn't let it spread) because it was so massive and the building was so engulfed in flames that there was no way they could have put that out. Hopefully LIAT has a good back-up system on their systems and yes, hopefully they were properly insured. Will they investigate this fire and try and figure out how it occurred? It would be very interesting to know.

**vicnes** » 2012-06-11 09:24

If this turn out to be arson, the jail time given to the culprit should make the 260 years that the justice department is asking for Sanford, look like a mini vacation.

**Hmmmm** » 2012-06-11 09:09

I am also glad that this did not happen during work hours as there may have been loss of life as well

**Hmmmm** » 2012-06-11 09:08

I understand the loss of crital records which migh be un-replaceable. However in all the information going around this morning I havent heard any one speak to whether the plane, building and other equipment lost in the fire were insured. I certainly do hope so

**Rudder** » 2012-06-11 09:07

Losing one aircraft will have tremendous implications on LIAT's operations. LIAT already use all their aircraft to maximum capacity and run a very tight schedule, working their aircraft very hard.

Take one aircraft out of that equation, and expect major knock-on delays, pilots rosters will need to be completely renewed, LIAT's entire scheduling to other islands will need to be revised, and numerous other internal operational procedures will be disrupted and need re-building.

Lord knows LIAT don't have the funds to buy another DASH-8 or even lease one. For an airline that is already standing on one leg, this incident happened at the worst possible time.

We all have our issues with LIAT and the way its run, but my thoughts go out to the company and all its employees, and I hope they can overcome this significant set back.

**JP Farnsworth** » 2012-06-11 09:01

All the speculation and no one said the important thing that so far no one was reported to have been hurt. Everything else can be replaced.
Somebody call China....Hello we need a new hanger Ooops we blew ours up.

**buss** » 2012-06-11 08:45

this hangar houses the offices of many critical departments along with the maintenence workshop and engine/prop repairs.....ser ious fire with serious implications... .NOT to be made into a joke and people already casting blame....shame on you lethal!!

**Just wondering** » 2012-06-11 08:36

Where in the story was the word "water" used? Are you assuming that because the word "dousing" was used that they are talking about water?

**lethal.** » 2012-06-11 07:56

thats in antigua. the only place u can expect the unexpected. miracles do happen on that small island. what a joke.

**RAWLSTON POMPEY** » 2012-06-11 07:30

It might be misleading to report that "...water" was the extinguishing agents used on certain flammables.

Basic Fire training advises that where fires were fuelled by "...gas products, oils or chemicals," the agent that is used is "...Foam."

This acts as a blanket over the fuel and flame. The use of water spreads both fuel and flame, thus making it more dangerous and difficult to control and extinguish. For safety and extinguishing effectiveness, Fire Brigade personnel are very much aware of these.

Dry Powder, another extinguishing agents is used on "...electrical fires". Water is a conductor of electricity and is not used by personnel.

**Captain Hindsight** » 2012-06-11 06:31

Pouring water on a fuel fire? Guess the airport needs to re-evaluate their ARFF procedures..

**woods** » 2012-06-11 02:14

This fire has very serious implications for the operation of flights, along with the physical hangar and aircraft. LIAT would have lost their Quality Assurance Department, Techinical Records Department and Technical Library which are very critcal and necessary to the operation. I do hope that if the IT Department has been affeted that they would have had the hard drives backed up at a seperate and remote location.

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