Antigua St John's - Chinese immigrant workers believed to be attached to the VC Bird International Airport expansion project were reportedly caught fishing buckets of juvenile conch from the grassy areas along Shell Beach.
Marine conservationist Eli Fuller said based on reports, a group of Chinese immigrants gathered to collect a quantity of marine life for their own consumption.
The police were called, but eyewitnesses said the police took so long to respond that by the time they arrived, the catch was already gone.
Fuller said while he does not believe the conch was meant for export or sale, stricter measures must be implemented to safeguard delicate marine life that is guarded by legislation.
“Conchs have to be a certain size according to the law," Fuller said, "and they were all juvenile conch."
According to Fuller, there have been several reports of Chinese immigrant workers “doing things like that”.
“Either they are ignorant of the law and don't want to find out about it, or they know that nobody is going to try to stop them,” he said.
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Concern citizen
RE: Chinese Suspected of Illegal Fishing
Chinese n'yam anything dat move
The joke is on us Antigua!!!
Redemption Song
to Eli and all my sisters and brothers who dare to care
Eli if it is legally possible post the names of these Chinese business agents so we may know the face of our enemy. the enemy of our collective future and our natural resources.
Call your protest and Chef will be there in person. because my children will eat lobster fish and conch right from our waters when they are my age .
do not mess with Chefs food because trust me a hungry man is an angry ,man and chef is "hungry'. this is an issue that every Antiguan can relate to and understand ,it is thus not without a degree of irony that chef notes that a bucket of baby conch might just do what 47.000.000 $ worth of junk could not .FINALLY UNITE ALL ANTIGUANS AROUND A COMMON CAUSE AND TAKE A STAND FOR OUR NATION AND FUTURE. so let it be about this.. it is a worthy cause.Chef will await the call to action.
microwave Chef
Chef, you are right.
eli
RE: Chinese Suspected of Illegal Fishing
lady j
China's Geopolitics - Charter Of Conduct to its Overseas Companies! PT5
Quote:
Let me end by suggesting that since 1981, the velocity and trajectory of Antigua & Barbuda-China integration from inertia to a kinetic, dynamic Capital Infrastructure Development, Business & Entrepreneurial Interactions have caused some huge and interesting imbalances and challenges. As Dr. Isaac Newton articulates we must not wrap our selves in ideological wanderings but seek working handles.
John French II
feeling craby
Microwave Chef
China's Geopolitics - Charter Of Conduct to its Overseas Companies! PT4
Prior to that catastrophe, in 2005, China's Cabinet, issued Nine Principles to Encourage and Standardise Enterprises Overseas Investment which required Chinese companies operating overseas to abide by local laws, bid contracts on the basis of transparency and equality, protect the labour rights of local employees, protect the environment, implement corporate responsibilitie s and so on.
The Good Hon Dr. PM is responsible for Foreign Affairs. It his responsibility to ensure through the Diplomatic Channels or through his Good Office as Hon. Dr. PM to engage the PRC Ambassador ensure that the PRC companies operating in Antigua abide by the PRC's Undertakings.
Justic for detractors, rogues, vagabonds and criminals in the PRC is blindingly swift and even terminal.
John French II
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1010
R Berry you said, it chef agree's
If the lone wolfs take this one on I Chef expects to see Eli ,every fisherman and otherwise Antiguan united out there on that day. because this is really an national issue. Chef will simply have to close shop that day if it is to be so because chef feels this is good enough to act on. this is real ,this is serious and non political .this is a national/intern ational issue for real.
Quote: simply genius BBC CNN hope you are watching this one . And when we are done there can we go and picket the ministry of agriculture with responsibility for fisheries as well as the ministry of international affairs ( chef thinks that would be the office of Dr2 PM BS) so we can protect our self's legally from environmental rapist be they Chinese ( even BMW MAN Germany design) Japanese or french
Microwave Chef
RE: Chinese Suspected of Illegal Fishing
Wha loss! that will get on CNN for sure.
R. Berry
lets fight back by taking a picture, we are not powerless
A picture can be worth a 100000 words as the lone wolfs have proven, so get out your cell phone and start shooting( pictures that is) Chef will bet you that once we do that our Chinese friends will think twice, before they go out and known or not "RAPE" the only thing we really have (our natural resources our food supply our life line my beach and my ocean )for Chef has no option of going back to china once Antigua has been plundered of everything we have and we don't even know it. to my Chinese friends If you want conch come by my kitchen Chef sells mature" granny" conch water. chef is not a baby killer.but business is business. and conch is part of my business you Chinese keep out of it
Microwave Chef
lets fight back by taking a picture, we are not powerless
The Plan: if proof is provided to the police be it in the form of photographic evidence will they act accordingly?
if so maybe we can put our cell phones to use . every time we see our "friends" somewhere engaging in activities that might be illegal please take pictures and post them to caribarena, let them send a copy to the relevant police authorities and lets see what happens. Chef is sure that once our Chinese friends begin to feel the heat of close scrutiny of there movements and actions( something they should be use to back home) they will understand that the honeymoon shoulin promised is clearly over.
We my sisters and brothers are not powerless. evil illegal activity can only take place in the dark. if we shine our collective light on it it will perish. so lets us expose then in full public view .
Microwave Chef
RE: Chinese Suspected of Illegal Fishing
DO SOMETHING!!
send them packing!
jeb
RE: Chinese Suspected of Illegal Fishing
Fed Up
RE: Chinese Suspected of Illegal Fishing
pLS
Not Surprised
Lionman
RE: Chinese Suspected of Illegal Fishing
yt
UNDERSTOOD YOUR POSITION
One may, therefore, wish to commend you highly for your almost "...single-hand ed efforts" for such keeness of "...sensitizati on, protection and preservation of such resources." Public pressure, however, may be visited upon those with responsibility to manage.
The "...TONE' of the news item connotes something pointedly different"--... Slow response; ...reluctant to conduct search of diplomatic vehicles." The news also said the "...CATCH HAD ALREADY GONE" [para 3] by the time the police had arrived.
It would be sad if the authorities, even on the basis of "...SUSPICION," were not prepared to forward a "...PROTESTATIO N NOTE" through the diplomatic channel of their displeasure.
Good luck in your patriotic efforts.
RAWLSTON POMPEY
China's Geopolitics - Charter Of Conduct to its Overseas Companies! PT3
It is of the utmost importance that the GoAB seize the opportunities which are being presented to it by the interests in our natural and renewable resources and put in place up-to-date - Structural Reform - adequate policies, laws, regulations, structures, processes, systems, & skills to effectively manage, not only the harvesting, but also the manner in which the end products of the harvesting processes are managed.
Disband the Army. Strengthen the Coast Guard & Fishery. Develop and Implement Marine Engineering & Fishery Training.
Hon. Dr. PM. a tete a tete with the PRC's Ambassador is Mandatory to send a stern warning. Quote: Heaven Help The Nation Of Antigua & Barbuda.
John French II
RE: Chinese Suspected of Illegal Fishing
The PM should be leading by example, but instead he byp** parliament and purchases generators illegally without parliamentary approval.
Commences building an airport terminal on land he does not own.
Ignores court rulings to pay HMB for the land the government has expropriated.
Suppressed the report into the FSRC in contravention of the Freedom of Information Act.
Failed to bring charges against Allen Stanford.
Failed to investigate Errol Corts role in the Stanford debacle.
Failed to answer basic questions regarding the age of the Chinese generators.................
The list of Spencer and the UPPs failures are to numerous to list but I think you get the point. When our leaders fail to follow the nations laws how can you rebuke foreigners for lesser crimes.
Spin Doctor
China's Geopolitics - Charter Of Conduct to its Overseas Companies! PT2
In response to this News Portal Article:Call for Losbster Closed Season comments titled "Save The Lobster Men & Fishery!" the plaintive cry was raised Quote: Read more: http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/environment/environment/100380-call-for-lobster-closed-season.html#ixzz1viOsmnSJ
John French II
RE: Chinese Suspected of Illegal Fishing
Just Sayin
RE: Chinese Suspected of Illegal Fishing
Legghornn
What!
Just hoping that these persons using diplomatic plates are not persons with diplomatic immunity who is using said immunity to break the countries laws. If they don’t know then perhaps someone should visit Ms. Wang and inform her of the law governing the marine resources of Antigua and Barbuda
Cool Ruler
De Real Observer
Osbert R. Frederick
China's Geopolitics - Charter Of Conduct to its Overseas Companies! PT!
Given the Geopolitics of China,its peoples rapacious appetite for dim sum and all creatures great and small, and the lack of Vision & Strategic Planning in A&B, one can safely take comfort in the African Proverb which clearly defines the relationships and cultures of the Donor and the Supplicant: Quote:This potential disaster, nonchalantly foisted on a "bewildered and bemused electorate" conflate with these strangers making less than $100 US/mo in this strange land building its infrastructure.
John French II
not only fishing
college student
i will bite
Quote:..
tenman
...mental revolution, the order of today...
Jumbee Picknee
@Observer
dadlison
The nation should stand with Vere111
How many citizenships we have to give up for the airport...
If all Antiguan,red and blue dont join the pickets and demonstrations Now,,this country will continue to fall.. Start by signing the Caribareana
Petition . It's all connected..
Wadada Obancho
Ship of FOOLS...!!
By the way REAL ANALYST the DEVELOPMENTAL ASSISTANCE you speak of comes with a heavy price dont be fooled.....I dont hear peep from the Minister of Fisheries , i dont hear peep from the PM and i dont hear peep from SHOULIN......Wh at a sxax..!!!!!!!!! !!!
Queen
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Pellucid
@Observer
A Wa Ya!!!!!
Diplomatic Plates
Chucks
They must and should respect us!
Dig It
MO
Rhino and elephant horn will not get the male tealee and bigger harder longer, yet that is what is believed. Science fails to confirm this.
Chinese aid means your wildlife and biodiversity will get screwed
Oh btw, Ban Ki Moon, UN head says that the oceans need better protections globaly.
Nemo
RE: Chinese Suspected of Illegal Fishing
If you buying a mother hen, you must take her little chicks too.
Smoke n Mirrors
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IF THE GOVERNMENT WONT DO ANYTHING, THEN IT IS UP TO US, ANTIGUAN CITIZENS TO DO SOMETHING OURSELVES....ST AND UP!!!
6
So that's how Chinese diplomats behave?
getting caught red handed catching baby conchs "embar**ing and criminal"
getting caught catching baby conchs and having CD plates "priceless"
So that's how Chinese diplomats behave? hmmm best send them home fast.
committing a crime under the cover of what Diplomatic immunity? just because the car has CD plates.... they did not catch those conchs from the car and once out of the car only those with diplomatic passport can claim immunity. (right Mr Pompey or i**aken? so at least question those you can when a crime is reported don't just let them go ( Chef dear say a local would have not gotten away that easy i think).
Any person local or tourist alike knows very well not to take anything from the beach and ocean without permission not even sand. the Laws are very clear on that( enforcement now that's a different story...
Every child in Antigua knows you do not eat babies.. is this not so in china as well??????
Microwave Chef
prt4
This is the 2nd incident that I have had to deal with the Chinese. About 6-7months ago, I was at Jabba walk and witnessed, again about 8 chinese men, with HAMMERS, hammering away at the reef, breaking off LARGE chunks of the reef, in order to get out baby octopus and lobster and whatever else they could find.
ob4
3
Our waters have been raped for YEARS and YEARS by neighbouring islands, esp the french ones, and now we are having to deal with the Chinese...IT HAS TO STOP!!!!!
ob3
have to stand up2
observer2
have to stand up
observer
have to stand up
observer
Even bexxer
Me bex!
What did you expect?
Antigua is a beautiful place to live. Fresh seafood, and fertile soil to grow organic produce. I bet they don't spend their money on the island to buy food. They catch and grow their own food. The Chinese are overjoyed to have access to such a place. Now the exploitation and disrespect begins, and it's going to get worse. They are going to start opening up nail salons on the island. You watch.
Not surprised
People's Law
We have been brought up with this notion of always going through law enforcement and settling disputes at the polls, but right is right. Next time anyone sees this going on get in there and take the conch out of these people's hand. Intimidate them, chase them away. Let US do something.
dadlison
RE: Chinese Suspected of Illegal Fishing
The officer I spoke with clearly knew the law and what was going on and immediately dispatched someone to the area. The CD plates may have had something to do with them getting away with the crimes, but that is understanding to me. For the record, I have no complaint against the police when it comes to marine fisheries management at all, and I will be even more impressed when one of these guys gets locked up.
eli
SOMETHING CONCHY
It is instructive to note the following:
Section 22 states "...No person shall take, sell, purchase or have in his posssession "...ANY IMMATURE CONCH." Subsection 2 states "...The Minister may by Notice publish in the Gazette declare any period as "...CLOSED SEASON FOR CONCH."
It was common knowledge that certain groups have been accused of illegally interfering with the marine resources (fish stocks) whether at ponds or the sea, yet some have found it expedient in laying blame on members of the local constabulary for the apparent impotency of others.
Even if Conservationsts weree instrumental in securing "...EVIDENCE" they would still have to contend with Section 28 that TENMAN may wish to provide.
RAWLSTON POMPEY
RE: Chinese Suspected of Illegal Fishing
Oh boy more shame and embar**ment pour pun poor
R. Berry
RE: Chinese Suspected of Illegal Fishing
Hmmmmm
Chinese culture
should have been arrested on the spot. The Chinese are like locust destroy
everything in their path. Should we now call them the locust people?
Robinhood
Time to Act
While I appreciate the developmental assistance provided by China, I am fed up with the behaviour of their citizens, who have no respect for our laws. Time to put things right.
The Real Analyst
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